Nine peppermint angels!!!!
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meanpressure
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hedgedrew,
Have you noticed the peppermint eating much, or has he been mostly eating
off the liverock?
Have you noticed the peppermint eating much, or has he been mostly eating
off the liverock?
Mostly off rock and sand. But after i feed pods or oyster eggs i feel she gets them from water column but its difficult to watchbher since they prefer to eat in dark and nuzzled up in corner somewhere. They do a lot of sand picking which then gets into the debate on bare bottom tanks. I do not feel that is right for this fish. Almost need to overfeed and let food fall to bottom of sand
coralfriend
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ReefCentral is a good place which is full of valuable informations about keeping reef fish. I also want to do a little contribution to this database. My pep is one of the nine pep of Koji. My pep is really a small one(may be unlucky) of about 3.5cm from head to tail. I had been kept it for 15 days.
My tank have no live rock, no sand bottom and full of plaque(aptasia everywhere) but I have a mud refugium with many amphipods. The lighting condition is 12hr room light and 12hr dim light reflected from the refugium nearby. I do not have any other type of lighting in my tank. My room lighting is only one 48 inches fluorescence daylight tube which can be buy anywhere and I mount this tube on the ceiling of my fish room. I do not do any QT procedure(playing fire) on this fish! Ha! Ha! I hold this fish with another juvenile anglefish on one side of my tank. I use eggcrate to separate my tank into two half.
My observation on this fish is that she only pick on the false decoration and the glass. She dare not to pick on the bottom because all of my tank bottom is full of aptasia! I guess that she only eat very tiny crustacean and pod from the rock in natural habitat. She have no need to pick on the water column because all what she need can be find in her surrounding rocky environment in her natural habitat.
My way of feeding is that I use a fine airtubing and I mount a cleaning cotton clothes at the outlet of my airtubing. I use a doser to dose live brine larvae 24 hrs for her via the airtubing. Hong Kong have no supply of any type of pods, arctipods etc. I observe that she very often pick on the cotton clothes and the egg-crate as well. She pick on the live brine shrimp larvae stick on the surface of them. After 14 days, she learn how to pick the brine shrimp larvae from the water column as well. I milled hikari mysid into very fine size and pour them into the water column. She also eat very little on them but if the size is too large(My guessing), she will spill it out of her mouth at once. Live brine shrimp larvae is still her main diet now! She use to feed during day time(She will swim everywhere to seek for food) and hide inside the under ledge of my artificial rock during night time. She usually stay claim and less active during the light is gone. Therefore, I do not think that this fish get use to feed during night time.
Above is only my personal opinion and observation!
I hope that my observation and informations can have some reference value on the future owner of this amazing fish!
I promise to report if my fish is gone in some day!
My tank have no live rock, no sand bottom and full of plaque(aptasia everywhere) but I have a mud refugium with many amphipods. The lighting condition is 12hr room light and 12hr dim light reflected from the refugium nearby. I do not have any other type of lighting in my tank. My room lighting is only one 48 inches fluorescence daylight tube which can be buy anywhere and I mount this tube on the ceiling of my fish room. I do not do any QT procedure(playing fire) on this fish! Ha! Ha! I hold this fish with another juvenile anglefish on one side of my tank. I use eggcrate to separate my tank into two half.
My observation on this fish is that she only pick on the false decoration and the glass. She dare not to pick on the bottom because all of my tank bottom is full of aptasia! I guess that she only eat very tiny crustacean and pod from the rock in natural habitat. She have no need to pick on the water column because all what she need can be find in her surrounding rocky environment in her natural habitat.
My way of feeding is that I use a fine airtubing and I mount a cleaning cotton clothes at the outlet of my airtubing. I use a doser to dose live brine larvae 24 hrs for her via the airtubing. Hong Kong have no supply of any type of pods, arctipods etc. I observe that she very often pick on the cotton clothes and the egg-crate as well. She pick on the live brine shrimp larvae stick on the surface of them. After 14 days, she learn how to pick the brine shrimp larvae from the water column as well. I milled hikari mysid into very fine size and pour them into the water column. She also eat very little on them but if the size is too large(My guessing), she will spill it out of her mouth at once. Live brine shrimp larvae is still her main diet now! She use to feed during day time(She will swim everywhere to seek for food) and hide inside the under ledge of my artificial rock during night time. She usually stay claim and less active during the light is gone. Therefore, I do not think that this fish get use to feed during night time.
Above is only my personal opinion and observation!
I hope that my observation and informations can have some reference value on the future owner of this amazing fish!
I promise to report if my fish is gone in some day!
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WOW... First leafy SeaDragons and now a Pep Angel... What else you hiding ?
he had a personatus pair...male can still be seen in his recent videos...:beachbum:
Reef Nutrition sells bottled artic pod...doesn't HK get any of their product...?!
also why do you keep 'garden' of aptasia in your tank..?:lol2:
My babysitting duty is over as the peppermint is heading for her new home. I'd like to share my thoughts/observations along with those of coralfriend for anyone who will have one of these beauties in the future.
I had the fish in a bare bottom tank with pvc pieces to hide in for the first 10 days of QT. Then moved her to a regular tank with a gravel bottom, some cultured live rock (with algae and sponges) and pvc pieces for the second part of QT. In both tanks she would pick at the pvc and rocks but didn't seem to actually be eating. At first she did not seem to recognize food as food and she was a bit timid but calm. A couple of days into QT in the bare tank she started to eat out of the water column. She would only consume very small pieces of food and just a few at a time. She soon learned that I was the feeder and she would go after the first few pieces of food with gusto and then slow down unless offered a different food. I got the best response from hikari frozen brine shrimp and mysid shrimp as well as cyclopese. I also fed live newly hatched brine shrimp which she loved along with frozen clam and fish ovaries. Her top two picks were the frozen brine and cyclopese. When I moved her to the regular tank I added some copepods and amphipods for her to pick off the rocks but I didn't see any interest from her towards those. (The amphipods were quite large, more than a 1/4 inch). She also tried a couple of flake foods (ocean nutrition and tetra) from the water column in small pieces. She was not interested in table shrimp or the gel based foods I tried.
For the first 10 days there were only airstones used and no water motion. I had a small powerhead for current when I moved her into the regular tank. She seemed to swim a bit tippy with the power head on and I was afraid she was weak but I think she was just not experienced with strong water motion. I turned the flow down and she was fine so I brought it up slowly over several days and she adjusted to it well.
In my opinion she took about the same amount of time to settle is as most other smaller angelfish that I've had experience with. In the regular tank she was confident and calm and explored her surroundings. I think if she had had a tank mate the transition would have gone faster.
I'm not sure if this fish was a male or female but I'm calling her "she" because she was so pretty. :spin1:
I had the fish in a bare bottom tank with pvc pieces to hide in for the first 10 days of QT. Then moved her to a regular tank with a gravel bottom, some cultured live rock (with algae and sponges) and pvc pieces for the second part of QT. In both tanks she would pick at the pvc and rocks but didn't seem to actually be eating. At first she did not seem to recognize food as food and she was a bit timid but calm. A couple of days into QT in the bare tank she started to eat out of the water column. She would only consume very small pieces of food and just a few at a time. She soon learned that I was the feeder and she would go after the first few pieces of food with gusto and then slow down unless offered a different food. I got the best response from hikari frozen brine shrimp and mysid shrimp as well as cyclopese. I also fed live newly hatched brine shrimp which she loved along with frozen clam and fish ovaries. Her top two picks were the frozen brine and cyclopese. When I moved her to the regular tank I added some copepods and amphipods for her to pick off the rocks but I didn't see any interest from her towards those. (The amphipods were quite large, more than a 1/4 inch). She also tried a couple of flake foods (ocean nutrition and tetra) from the water column in small pieces. She was not interested in table shrimp or the gel based foods I tried.
For the first 10 days there were only airstones used and no water motion. I had a small powerhead for current when I moved her into the regular tank. She seemed to swim a bit tippy with the power head on and I was afraid she was weak but I think she was just not experienced with strong water motion. I turned the flow down and she was fine so I brought it up slowly over several days and she adjusted to it well.
In my opinion she took about the same amount of time to settle is as most other smaller angelfish that I've had experience with. In the regular tank she was confident and calm and explored her surroundings. I think if she had had a tank mate the transition would have gone faster.
I'm not sure if this fish was a male or female but I'm calling her "she" because she was so pretty. :spin1:
meanpressure
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Thanks for sharing that information and your experience with the pep.
I am glad she is doing well.
I am glad she is doing well.
H.reidi.MN
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Wow leafy sea dragons huh .. My all time dream fish
LobsterOfJustice
Recovering Detritophobe
This is amazing! Too often rare fish get whisked away and never seen or heard from again, at least not publicly. The fact that we have several owners on this public forum sharing their experiences with this ultra rare fish is inspiring to see. Best of luck to all of you, and please keep us updated!
coralfriend
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Video of my pep picking at water column. I try to add cyclopeeze into my food receipt as it is suggested by Karen!
http://youtu.be/hckkDECMJ5s
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RayL
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I didn't see this fish do anything in this video, but I could watch it over and over, she is such a beautiful fish
Yurivd
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You can see the pep eating. Every time the pep is pausing it is eating
Megatrev62
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Still feel bad for humaguy. Best of luck with this fish, it is gorgeous.
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