Nine peppermint angels!!!!
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coralfriend
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There is still 2 pep in one of the aquarium store in Hong Kong. Live or dead- nobody know! Then it add up to a total of 20 peps which had been seen in the market!
jnc914
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I think you may have come to the wrong thread to make that arguement....But I tend to agree. There are just some fish that will never be suitable for long term captivity, and this may be one of them. I think the Peppermint is an awesome fish and would snatch one if I was in a higher tax bracket, but ultimately so little is known about how to provide an environment for them to thrive in captivity.
Mark9
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Not an argument, just an opinion.
Allmost
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thats prety much every fish and coral we take from the ocean .. first we know nothing, then we learn.
SPS corals were thought to be impossible to keep in captivity 15-20 years back. look where we are now ! Same applies to even bandit angels.
this fish should number to lakhs in ocean....no problem in trying a few...
jnc914
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Allmost- While I agree with most of your post, I think you neglect the fact that this fish is cost and availability prohibitive to a majority of the people in this hobby. That ultimately means that there is a much smaller group/sample of people to "experiment" on how to keep this fish long term in captivity. Also, there is only Rufus collecting these fish at ridiculous depths, so it will never be as common as say a yellow tang, or even a Bandit for that matter. Most Bandits being collected are not taken from 400+ft. So obviously Bandits are more commonly collected and are affordable enough that there have been many hobbiests over the years that have gone through the trials and tribulations of keeping one. Other than the most recent Peppermints, there have been 1-2 people in the last 15 years, to keep these fish on a long term basis.
Also, because Rufus and his team are the only collectors of the Peppermint, there is no one else to compare the way these fish are collected and handled...meaning that if there was another few divers who collect, and they are more or even less successful with providing healthy fish; then what are the differences and factors that could lead to better collection and long term success of this fish.
Also, because Rufus and his team are the only collectors of the Peppermint, there is no one else to compare the way these fish are collected and handled...meaning that if there was another few divers who collect, and they are more or even less successful with providing healthy fish; then what are the differences and factors that could lead to better collection and long term success of this fish.
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jazzman7838
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It's sad to hear that so many have passed away. It seems to me like the cause of the high mortality so soon must be from issues related to the way they were decompressed. I have no doubt that because of their value these fish were handled, shipped, and held with the utmost of care throughout the process.
It would be interesting to hear more details on the way they were decompressed. I've got to think that the best way to decompress these guys is in a surface chamber over several days. The methods for doing this have been published by the Monterey Bay Aquarium and should be fairly straightforward for anybody to accomplish with a bit of DIY know-how and about $1500, drop in the bucket for an expedition like this. They have lots of rockfish from 400-500' that have been thriving for years in captivity. I hope future collections have better success.
It would be interesting to hear more details on the way they were decompressed. I've got to think that the best way to decompress these guys is in a surface chamber over several days. The methods for doing this have been published by the Monterey Bay Aquarium and should be fairly straightforward for anybody to accomplish with a bit of DIY know-how and about $1500, drop in the bucket for an expedition like this. They have lots of rockfish from 400-500' that have been thriving for years in captivity. I hope future collections have better success.
ingtar_shinowa
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I think its more of them not wanting to eat then anything else but that speculation since I didnt have direct contact.
jazzman7838
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Yeah, I suppose that's possible too. It seems like many of them were dropping pretty quickly though. I wonder if anybody opened up the bodies to see if they had anything in their stomachs.
gillsmarine
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Great looking fish, its funny that people talk bad about the price when plane tickets, boat rental, scuba rental, plus your hotel and everything else would just about equal or exceed the price... and that is not including the priceless knowledge of knowing where exactly to find it lol.
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