NM Game and Fish Stop Sale

[psuedopimp]

i was at petco last night and there was a sign that said these animals are no longer for sale.

I asked the clerk and she said NMGF put a stop sale on the marine inverts and a couple other animals like the chinchilla.

Anyone else here about that?

 

[Jay508]

Interesting... Does this apply to saltwater and freshwater animals? I know the saltwater trade has been under a lot of scrutiny lately but its interesting that it has managed to find its way all the way out here to our little dessert oasis.

 

[psuedopimp]

they were still selling the fish, but none of the anemones, snails, shrimp, or featherdusters.

and somehow the poor chinchillas got caught up in the mix

 

[SOULEMAN]

I heard about it the other day and they said they are not allowed to sell inverts and corals in NM. That is crazy.

 

[Jay508]

Does this just apply to the petco chain or is it no longer allowed to sell corals anywhere in new mexico, in a retail establishment? Did this hit texas also?

 

[psuedopimp]

the clerk didn't know anything about texas (go figure) and looked on the game and fish website but didn't see anything.
not that the salt water industry in Las Cruces will be affected at all.

 

[SOULEMAN]

it did not hit texas. but i dont know about just petco.

 

[psuedopimp]

okay so the law has been in since 2001 or 2005 can't remember what she said, but someone got busted saleing illegally imported fish so they got mad and tattled on everyone else so it has really blown up. it is illegal for new mexican to bring it in even if it was bought down the road in el paso. So you guys better look out for us and keep us legal.
here is some info i found on the Game and Fish website. Funny i didn't find anything about inverts and the lady said she really doubted it would affect corals.

D. Ornamental aquarium fish advertised, sold and maintained for the express purpose of display in aquaria will be allowed into New Mexico. Ornamental aquarium fish include and are restricted to members of the families:
Paratrygonidae
Osteoglossidae
Pantodontidae
Notopteridae
Mormyridae
Ctenoluciidae
Curimatidae
Gasteropelecidae
Lebiasinidae
Hemiodidae
Anostomidae
Citharinidae
Rhamphichthyidae
Cyprinidae (excluding the genera Hypophthalmichthys, Catla, Labeo, Rohita, Cirrhina, Leuciscus)
Gyrinocheilidae
Bagridae
Cobitidae
Bagridae
Siluridae (excluding walking catfish)
Schilbeidae
Pangasiidae
Mochokidae
Doradidae
Loricariidae
Aspredinidae
Melanotaeniidae
Pimelodidae
Hemirhamphidae
Callichthyidae
Gasterosteidae
Belonidae
Syngnathidae
Batrachoididae
Poeciliidae
Goodeidae
Cyprinodontidae
Centrarchidae
Centropomidae
Monodactylidae
Scatophagidae
Toxotidae
Badidae
Nandidae
Cichildae (excluding the genera Tilapia and Sarotherodon)
Belontiidae
Anabantidae
Helostomatidae
Osphronemidae
Gobiidae
Eleotridae
Mastacembelidae
Tetraodontidae

E. Permission may be granted by the State Game commission to import prohibited species into New Mexico upon demonstration by the applicant that no possible conflict with native animals, human health or livestock will occur, upon showing of good cause, and/or upon requiring that certain additional conditions are met by the applicant.

F. The director may, in times of animal health emergency, suspend all importation activities or suspend importation of selected taxa for indefinite periods of time to protect wild and domestic animals from infectious disease epidemics and to protect the people of New Mexico from zoonoses.

[19.35.7.8 NMAC - Rp 19 NMAC 31.1.11, 3-31-00; A, 06-29-01]


Any LFS owners know of any common fish that we keep that is not on that list? would be interesting to know.

 

[psuedopimp]

C. Only members of the following families of fish (except as noted in Subsections D, and E of 19.35.7.8 NMAC) will be considered for importation into New Mexico:

(1) Salmonidae

(2) Esocidae

(3) Percichthyidae

(4) Ictaluridae

(5) Centrarchidae

(6) Percidae

 

[psuedopimp]

so according to this i guess my two fish were imported illegally.

clown fish pomacentridae and potters angel pomacanthidae

since both of those families aren't on the approved list

this doesn't seem right at all.

 

[xmenx2dad]

Does this just apply to the petco chain or is it no longer allowed to sell corals anywhere in new mexico, in a retail establishment? Did this hit texas also?

I called a couple of fish stores up here in Albuquerque and they are fine, still selling everything. The Petco's are all under restricted sales.

 

[benjabba]

Pretty wild guys. I hope they get it figured out.

 

[nmnative]

I'm going to apply for green cards for my clown fish or do they need passports? Well like Justin said, at least this won't affect the saltwater fish trade in Las Cruces since none of us buy fish at Petco.

 

[psuedopimp]

i think the person in charge of getting permits in order for petco fell asleep, and ****ed someone off at NMGF.

I still can't believe that new mexico is so progressive that it already has legislation to prevent the invasion of elephant butte (and other fresh water lakes and rivers) from pesky marine fish.

 

[ryan_paskadi]

Crazy stuff.

 

[psuedopimp]

i was in there last night and they changed the sign and took off the NM game and fish and put up a sign that said because of Petshop law in new mexico. who knows whats going on. they are still selling fish but not inverts so im not sure what part of the law pertains to that. maybe i will waste the afternoon looking at importation laws in new mexico.

 

[billabong08]

Here in Clovis our fish stores still sell inverts and such.

 

[puffin04]

That is BS i have talked to bill about it. I would just ignore it even though it is brought up every year. If you have any more concerns you can further read
http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/pr/species/invertebrates/

Thanks,
Steffen Sparks

 

[psuedopimp]

who's bill? and this wasn't about endangered species (although that was a cool link) it's about importation of problematic species. at least that is what i got from NMGF. i got nothing from Petco. they were clueless

 

[puffin04]

Bill is the aquatic specialist at petco. I think that is what they where referring it to. But there is a bill (piece of paper, lol) that is brought up every year about this but it always gets thrown out.

Steffen Sparks