NOT SATISFIED, NOT RECTIFIED, corals not happy!

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brittlestar08

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Albert,
Won’t you help the situation I find myself in with your company? What appeared to be a decent order with you has turned into an ongoing nightmare. Please see this link as a reminder of what has happened at the beginning. You never addressed this post started back when I first placed my order with you on 12/11/07 http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1268942 hoping you will address this one now.

Several problems has lead us here. When I ordered with you ½ the stuff never arrived and were sent from your distributor later (see above link). However, you did apologize and said “I apologize about miscommunication in respect to the second package. It is completely my fold that I did not indicated at the time you placed your 2nd order order that those items will ship in separate box.” (statement was copied exactly as recieved, even grammatical and spelling errors was left as you see above). Placed an order with you for a bunch of stuff namely, a 100 GPD filter cartridge, received a 75 GPD filter cartridge instead. You even invoiced me for a 100 GPD filter but then you claim in phone conversation that I agreed to a 75 GPD filter. After I receive the wrong filter you claim that the 75 GPD filter is more efficient than the 100 GPD but could not explain how this is so. Then you kick me back to your distributor, after getting the specs from DOW (the manufacturer) the 75 GPD filter does not appear to be 15% more efficient than the 100 GPD filter as claimed by your distributor. After I pointed this out to your distributor he then conceded that its not an exact science after originally claiming that its at least 15% more efficient? I would be more than happy to post the specs. here if you’d like but from the beginning I wanted a 100 GPD filter just as it appears on my invoice you e-mailed me on Dec. 10th and THAT’S THE POINT. You sent me the wrong filter and than tried to cover it up by telling me it’s more efficient. Finally, you had the manufacturer Send me a replacement filter when you said that they will be sending it to you and you would then send it to me. This would have given you an opportunity to see what I received. The replacement was opened and dirty like it had been used or something. It was also packaged improperly to boot. The first incorrect filter at least came in a closed air tight bag. I also received MH bulbs that are not what I am used to getting like the discoloration of the bulbs glass. I’m talking about the inner as well as the outer glass. You could not explain why I received bulbs that had a burn mark inside. Again you kicked me back to the manufacturer. The inner burns was explained but I still have marks on the outside of the glass. Other issues was with the power compact fluorescent bulbs (see last post for clarifications). They also turn off intermittently at times and color is dull (as mentioned in the above post). Lastly, you sent me ionized filter media for my DI in a zip lock bag. Nuclear grade should be packaged in an air tight vacuum sealed bag, not a zip lock bag. As a result product spilled out of the zip lock bag. Not sure why you would send it in this manor. I could go on and on and tell you more issues that I have been dealing with in regard to this order but hopefully by now you get the point.

All told its been one thing after another and the issues with this order have been going on now for a couple of months as I have been kicked around by you from one distributor to another manufacturer and back to you. I wanted to return everything from the start and I mentioned that to you. However, you deceitfully instilled confidence in several phone conversations and also when you wrote the following in e-mail to me, “We stand behind our product and service and if you are not completely satisfied with any products that you received from us, please return it to us for full refund.” I took that comment at face value and trusted that you would make good on your promises. You kept telling me to speak to the manufacturer and your distributors and in the end if I’m still not happy I can return whatever I’m not satisfied with for a full refund. Since you were kicking me back and fourth between manufacturers and could not answer any of my concerns yourself in regard to the products, a lot of time was being exhausted. Well, after exhaustive emails back and forth between you me and the distributors and manufacturers, two months later I’m STILL not happy with product or service since its not just one thing that occurred here, more like one thing after another. Now you state in e-mail to me on Feb. 15th “Since there is nothing wrong with the lamps we can not accept them as a return. See our return policy“. That is your opinion alone, however, I have stated to you that there were issues from the start. Again please take a look at the link above. So, which is it? You will or won’t stand behind the defective items that I received?

I’d like to return everything for a full refund of my purchase price at this point. I lost not only time but also all confidence in Aquacave. Especially after my recent phone conversation with you. Your accusations and name calling was not necessary. You should always try and put yourself in your customers shoes first. But instead of doing that and rectifying you call me a liar and slandered me with accusations about me trying to somehow blackmail you. I have been telling you about the issues from day one. I purchased these items from you and it just hasn’t worked out. I would like to take you up on your offer that you stand behind your product and service as I am not satisfied with either one and would like to return everything for a full refund of purchase price.

Please tell me if its possible to end this transaction on a positive note? I’m trying to do this a different way with you in order to seek resolution. I have also followed up in email with you in this regard but I have not received a response and is the reason why I now post here. Please let me know if you still back your product and service. I have not been a happy customer from the start. Please take a look at my track record here on RC. I never had to speak badly about any vendor and I‘ve been in the hobby for over 10 years plus about 5 years freshwater and have three tanks. I look forward to hearing back from you soon.
 
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Ben,

Like I indicated to you several times via emails and in our phone conversations, you can return the RO membranes if you do not want to continue using them.

Again, our 75gpd membranes are field tested to be more efficient than standard 100gpd as per our supplier. I directed you to them so you can get direct confirmation. Since you were not satisfied with their explanations, I arranged 100gpd membrane to be shipped to you directly from manufacturer. You claim that the new membrane arrived used, therefore I told you you can simply return both membrane to us for the full refund. After that I did not hear back from you for a month.

Similar scenario happened when it comes to XM lamps. Since you requested verification that spots inside lamps are nothing to worry about, I directed you to XM technical team to verify that. You did that and you were satisfied with their responses (see your previous thread).
After two month of using the lamps you contacted us that you are not fully satisfied with their performance even though you could not indicate what is wrong with them.
I offered to get the lamps back to us for testing and if needed to send you replacement lamps but you did not want to do that neither.

Current USA Actinic PC lamps that you received are brand new and covered with full manufacturer's warranty.
If you feel that there is anything wrong with the lamps, please send them in and we will have them tested and replaced if needed.

This is the first time since you receive your order over two months ago that you indicated that DI media was spilled in shipping. Please note that our policy clearly state that all shipping damages need to be reported within 24 hours after the order is received.

As for name calling, I'm not sure what you are referring to. All I said in our last conversation is that you have no respect to our policies and that I do not appreciate to be blackmailed (After you stated that you do not give a horse's *** about what our policies said and that you will post your experience on line if we do not do what you want).

Ben, we bend our policies everyday to keep our customers happy. I did everything I could to get you questions answered.
Please return the filters back to us if you wish not to continue using them, also, please send all the lamps that you feel are defective, back to us for replacement. If you would like to do that please email us and we'll generate return authorization number and call tag for you.


Albert
www.aquacave.com
 
It's becoming apparent to me now, that from the beginning, you did not want to resolve this. why would you not ask me to return the bulbs in the first place but rather say “We stand behind our product and service and if you are not completely satisfied with any products that you received from us, please return it to us for full refund.” you made is sound like in the end you would take care of me. In fact you said it exactly like that. on 12/14 you stated to me in e-mail "Just let me know when you decide to return any of the items. We will send you a prepaid return tag. "but you don't and haven’t yet. so, I ask again if you received an opened damaged filter and bulbs, would you trust me to get your replacements "IF NEEDED"? Sorry I don't buy it and I don't trust you. I have no problem sending the product back to you so you can do whatever you wish with them. Re-sell them for all I care. However, you have dragged this on long enough. I would like a refund PERIOD. I'm not going to send you product for you to turn around and say sorry, its not NEEDED. You are clearly telling me that a return is not needed in e-mail. So, why am I going to waste my time?

If you were in my shoes and I called you a liar and slander you by saying that you are trying to blackmail me and name call. would you still trust me? would you?

I said that I would write here if I did not get satisfaction. You have ignored my e-mails, so here we are thanks to you! I have the right to (and I will) post my dissatisfaction where I please. I'm not trying to get free merchandise. I'm just trying to get a refund for product that’s defective as you stated several times to me in e-mail. Now you do a 180 about face. I already used the Salifert Exit, which worked perfectly so I'm not asking nor ever asked about that. Nor am I asking for a refund on the carbon filter, or algae product by chem. marine, or the two sure grip magnets that I purchased at the same time as the other products. You havn’t taken care of the items on the order that are defective as explained in my opening post...You stalled from day one...now it seems as that you re-neg on what you already stated to me in e-mail.

I don't wish to deal with you or your distributors any longer. Thats why I as for a refund that you promised you would do in e-mail. Sorry, I've had enough dishonesty from you. Are you going to issue a refund if I send you the items back? Yes or No

If your answer is no, than send me replacements first and than I would be more than happy to send you the defective product back. Sorry, I don't trust you after you spoke to me in the mannor in which you did and after saying one thing than saying another.
 
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BTW, I'll post DOW's specs for you to see that what you are saying about the filters is incorrect. You are misleading your customers by saying that they are the same or that the 75 filter is better than the 100 GPD.

AGAIN THE POINT IS THAT MY INVOICE SHOWS THE 100 GPD FILTER. THATS WHAT I PAID FOR. BUT YOU SENT ME THE 75 GPD AT THE SAME PRICE. THATS CALLED FRAUD AND MIS-ADVERTISMENT. YOU STILL IGNORE THIS ISSUE.

I THINK I'LL POST MY INVOICE OF THE ORDER AS SOON AS I CAN TOO.
 
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HERE IS MY INVOICE: PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY I WAS CHARGED FOR A 100 GPD FILTER CARTRIDGE ON MY INVOICE AND YOU SEND ME A 75 GPD FILTER. PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY YOU CONTINUE TO SAY THAT THE 75 IS MORE EFFICIENT THAT THE 100? STOP IGNORING THE ISSUES AND OFFER A DIRECT ANSWER.
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THE FOLLOWING IS THE TESTING SPECIFICATIONS AS PUBLISHED BY DOW ON THE 75 GPD FILTER CARTRIDGE AND THE 100 GPD FILTER CARTRIDGE. PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW YOU CAN JUSTIFY THAT THE 75 FILTER IS MORE EFFICIENT THAN THE 100 GPD FILTER?

STILL THE POINT IS THAT I NEVER ORDERED THE 75 GPD FROM YOU. AGAIN THATS THE POINT BUT WHAT YOU SAY IS INCORRECT. SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU SELL.

HERE'S INFO ON THE 75:
http://www.dow.com/PublishedLiterature/dh_0074/0901b80380074538.pdf?filepath=liquidseps/pdfs/noreg/609-09010.pdf&fromPage=GetDoc

HERE'S THE INFO ON THE 100:
http://www.dow.com/PublishedLiterature/dh_0074/0901b80380074722.pdf?filepath=liquidseps/pdfs/noreg/609-00382.pdf&fromPage=GetDoc

YOU NEED NOT HAVE A DEGREE IN ROCKET SCIENCE OR BRAIN SURGURY TO SEE THAT ON THE:
A. 75 GPD RATED FILTER AT AN APPLIED PRESSURE OF 50 PSI YOU GET 75 GPD
B. 100 GPD RATED FILTER AT AN APPLIED PRESSURE OF 50 PSI YOU GET 100 GPD

CONCLUSION:YOU GET 25 MORE GPD WATER WITH THE 100 GPD FILTER AT AN APPLIED 50 PSI WATER FLOW. NO WHERE DOES IT STATE THAT THE 75 FILTER IS MORE EFFICIENT. BUT YET YOU NEVER OFFERED ME A 25% DISCOUNT ON THE 75 GPD FILTER THAT YOU WRONGFULLY SENT TO ME. THAT WORKS OUT TO A CREDIT OF $12.50 FROM WHAT I PAID (INVOICE SHOWN ABOVE).

CARE TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU CLAIM?
 
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HERE'S THE E-MAIL YOU SENT ME WHERE YOU STATED THAT YOU WILL BE SENDING ME THE FILTERS. NO MENTION WAS MADE THAT YOUR DISTRIBUTOR WAS TO DELIVER IT DIRECT TO ME.

IF YOU DELIVERED IT TO ME THEN YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT THE FILTER PACKAGE WAS IN FACT OPENED AND DIRTY LIKE IT WAS USED.

----- Original Message -----
From: "customercare" <customercare@aquacave.com>
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:53 AM
Subject: Re. RO membrane

We'll get the 100gpd membrane out to you within few days. It has been orderd
and will ship out as soon as it arrives.

Albert Andrasz
www.aquacave.com


HERE'S ANOTHER E-MAIL WHERE YOU CONFIRM THAT I CAN RETURN THE ITEMS...

----- Original Message -----
From: "customercare" <customercare@aquacave.com>
To: <xxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: Your order from aquacave.com

Just let me know when you decide to return any of the items.
We will send you a prepaid return tag.

Albert
www.aquacave.com

HERES THE ONE ABOUT YOU STANDING BEHIND PRODUCT AND SERVICE AND YOUR CONFIRMATION THAT I CAN RETURN FOR REFUND

From: "customercare" <customercare@aquacave.com>
To: <xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: Your order from aquacave.com

We stand behind our product and service and if you are not completely satisfied with any products that you received from us, please return it to us for full refund.

All our XM lamps come from PFO lighting which is a distributor of XM lamps.If you would like to discuss this issue with them the number is 800-577-9690.

I apologize about miscommunication in respect to the second package. It is completely my fold that I did not indicated at the time you placed your 2nd order order that those items will ship in separate box.

Albert Andrasz
www.aquacave.com
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11864112#post11864112 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AquaCave

After two month of using the lamps you contacted us that you are not fully satisfied with their performance even though you could not indicate what is wrong with them.

Current USA Actinic PC lamps that you received are brand new and covered with full manufacturer's warranty.
If you feel that there is anything wrong with the lamps, please send them in and we will have them tested and replaced if needed.

This is the first time since you receive your order over two months ago that you indicated that DI media was spilled in shipping.

BETWEEN THIS POST AND THE LAST ONE I ANSWERED ALL OF THE ABOVE... I COPIED THE ANSWERS FOR YOU AGAIN BELOW:

IN REGARD TO THE MH'S:
FIRST YOU MAKE IT SOUND AS THOUGH YOU ARE HEARING OF THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME BUT IN FACT I HAVE MENTIONED THIS TO YOU FROM DAY ONE. YOUR ANSWER CAN BE FOUND IN THE OPENING POST BUT HERE IT IS AGAIN

"discoloration of the bulbs glass. I’m talking about the inner as well as the outer glass. The inner burns was explained but I still have marks on the outside of the glass."

IN REGARD TO THE FLUORESCENTS:
"they are as bright as the old bulbs that I just pulled out of the tank. I did a side by side. when I get new fluorescents from the other vendor they are super super bright.They also turn off intermittently at times and color is dull."

IN REGARD TO THE DI:
I MENTIONED THAT TO YOU IN PHONE CONVERSATION

SO, WHEN AM I GOING TO RECEIVE THE ANSWERS TO MY MANY QUESTIONS ABOVE?
 
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I know maybe i should not get involved but some of your issues seem to be because you decided to keep something that you werent satisfied with. Aquacave just like any other business is not perfect, but in your original thread it seems that you were satisfied? how is it that now you start a new thread and come out with all these issues? I personally would not have used something that i deemed defective or used for 2 months before making a bigger fuss over it. I dont want to knock on you and dont want to do the same to aquacave either. Im local and i know plenty of people who deal with Albert directly and have not had problems. Issues do happen, not just with this store but everyone else. By the way i have heard from a lot people that the 75 gpd membrane is more efficient, but understand your point about paying for a 100 gpd. I believe Albert is offering something reasonable in taking back the items for testing. I mean if they are truly defective im sure he will make good to you. Just my 2 cents.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11872108#post11872108 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dohc97
I know maybe i should not get involved but some of your issues seem to be because you decided to keep something that you werent satisfied with. Aquacave just like any other business is not perfect, but in your original thread it seems that you were satisfied? how is it that now you start a new thread and come out with all these issues? I personally would not have used something that i deemed defective or used for 2 months before making a bigger fuss over it. I dont want to knock on you and dont want to do the same to aquacave either. Im local and i know plenty of people who deal with Albert directly and have not had problems. Issues do happen, not just with this store but everyone else. By the way i have heard from a lot people that the 75 gpd membrane is more efficient, but understand your point about paying for a 100 gpd. I believe Albert is offering something reasonable in taking back the items for testing. I mean if they are truly defective im sure he will make good to you. Just my 2 cents.



thank you for offering your insight. I never mentioned this, not even to Albert because it was personal. You can even ask him yourself. never mentioned this because I'm not looking for sympathy. My wife got into a bad car accident and has been at home and can't work since. I first placed my order on 12/10/07 and her accident was on 12/12/07. To make a long story short. Life hasn't been the same since. If Albert does not believe me I can send him supporting documentation. However, I have been trying to stick to the facts of this order from day one and he has been kicking me off to one manf. after another. He has made promises that he will take care of me and when I want to return the merchandise to just let him know. From the start he has treated me like garbage. Don't really know why? Sometimes two personalities clash. I think that has something to do with it. From the first conversation which was like a days after the order, when I expressed to him that I was unhappy with everything, he was harsh with me. Maybe he had a bad day, don't know? but I told him all that was wrong at the time.


Now to answer your question/comment. I mentioned a few things that really bothered me in the start. but that it escalated. what I mean is for example that I did not know in the very beginning that the fluorescents would flicker. I did see that they were dull and less bright than what I am used to with actinic fluorescents. than you have to remember that he was actually stalling me by kicking me back to his distributors. I spent countless weeks with them back and fourth in emails to try and get info from them. especially with the filter guys... it was like pulling teeth with them. Just horrible. So, all this took a little over a month. so what happened from about jan. 15th to feb 15 th or so? I have been running around from one neurosurgeon to another spine doc. with my wife and kids. Between that and working double time to make ends meet and finding time to sleep in between, I never had the chance to call. But than again, I really felt confident in Albert and aquacave at the time despite all of the problems with the order because he just kept promising and telling me that whenever I was ready to send the items back just to contact him (see his e-mails to me). I finally did when I had the first chance this past week. but, all of my e-mails came back negative from him. he asked me to call him which I did but everything that I told him went wrong he was basically calling me a liar. Than he said that he wanted to be honest with me and tell me that he beloved that I am somehow trying to blackmail him. He was very derogatory and called me other names. anyway, he than through the book at me with his store police and that I had 30 days to return ect. However, he made no mention of that policy at the start. I know I know I should have been paying attention. But again he kept reassuring me that he will take care of me and that I can return everything when I'm ready. Please re-read the first post. If you do from top to bottom as I did for the first time after I read your post tonight. You will see that I never ended saying that I was happy. I wasn't. In fact all I said is that XM (lighting manf.) explained why the inner bulbs had burn marks (black spots). Something that Albert could not do himself and was kicking back to his distributors. I truly believe now that he was doing this to stall me so than he could tell me I'm over the 30 day return limit of his store policy. Not right. anyway, I never made mention that I was happy. I believe I said that I will be back to buy more. and in fact I was going to. I inquired about some digital testing equipment in an e-mail... But Albert did not suggest that I go with it. really weird because I ended up doing more research and many other vendors recommended it to me. So I purchased it at a local shop. Now in retrospect I know why he did not want to sell it to me. He knew that I was going to return everything with the first order and he knew that he was going to deny the return based on his return policy. So, if I was going to order something else which was about a month after he first order. I would have the right to send the digital testers back for full refund. which I definatly would have done after what he put me through.

It all comes down to this. I take what people say at face value. I tend to trust people. even ones I just meet. I give everyone the same respect that they show towards me. Did I read his policy in detail? nope, at the time I trusted his word to me. Mistake #1. I now see that he was deceitfully making me believe that he was trying to help and not to worry you can return the items. Mistake #2. lots of time had been wasted but I was distracted by other unpleasant life events. Mistake #3.

So, I find myself on a boat without a paddle now. I know that he will not make right on this order. he said so to me in phone conversation. However, I was trying to do this a different way with him. But Albert is a very hard person to deal with.

So, what this all amounts to is. I will make it my mission to do everything that I can to make him see that he should simply do what he promised and take back the items. wasn't like its been 6 months. and I'm not asking for a refund on items that have been expended. like the salifert exit or the algae stuff. I am asking him to take back just the hardware that was defective and items I never ordered. If not I will do what I can to be sure that no one goes through what I did. Google wants about as much as I paid on my order to have a search link to threads when someone types in aquacave. I'm considering it.

anyway, sorry this was long but wanted to give you a glimpse to what I'm going through. Thanks again for posting.
 
i completely understand and sympathize with going thru bad customer experiences, im just hoping you get this resolved. Good luck
 
The 75 gpd is more efficient then the 100 gpd in respect to how much TDS it removes. Something like 90% removal for the 100 gpd and 98% for the 75 gpd.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11874768#post11874768 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dohc97
i completely understand and sympathize with going thru bad customer experiences, im just hoping you get this resolved. Good luck

yes you are right it has been really bad customer service. Thank you so much for posting and I too like you hope to get this resolved. the sooner the better. However, I have not heard back from Albert since his first post.

Honestly, I doubt it highly that he is going to respond to the overhwelming evidence I mouned here (I felt no other choice and pushed in this direction). I actually feel really exhuasted after the month of going back and fourth with vendors and other personal reasons.

However, whats right is right.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11865393#post11865393 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by brittlestar08


YOU NEED NOT HAVE A DEGREE IN ROCKET SCIENCE OR BRAIN SURGURY TO SEE THAT ON THE:
A. 75 GPD RATED FILTER AT AN APPLIED PRESSURE OF 50 PSI YOU GET 75 GPD
B. 100 GPD RATED FILTER AT AN APPLIED PRESSURE OF 50 PSI YOU GET 100 GPD

CONCLUSION:YOU GET 25 MORE GPD WATER WITH THE 100 GPD FILTER AT AN APPLIED 50 PSI WATER FLOW. NO WHERE DOES IT STATE THAT THE 75 FILTER IS MORE EFFICIENT. BUT YET YOU NEVER OFFERED ME A 25% DISCOUNT ON THE 75 GPD FILTER THAT YOU WRONGFULLY SENT TO ME. THAT WORKS OUT TO A CREDIT OF $12.50 FROM WHAT I PAID (INVOICE SHOWN ABOVE).

CARE TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU CLAIM?



A 100 GPD membrane has a 90% rejection rate.
A 75 GPD membrane has 98% rejection rate.

More gets filtered out by the 75 GPD membrane. In other words, the 75 gpd membrane is more efficient at filtering than the 100 gpd. You would burn through DI resin to no end with the 100 GPD membrane.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11874833#post11874833 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by asm481
The 75 gpd is more efficient then the 100 gpd in respect to how much TDS it removes. Something like 90% removal for the 100 gpd and 98% for the 75 gpd.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11874876#post11874876 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by James77
A 100 GPD membrane has a 90% rejection rate.
A 75 GPD membrane has 98% rejection rate.

More gets filtered out by the 75 GPD membrane. In other words, the 75 gpd membrane is more efficient at filtering than the 100 gpd. You would burn through DI resin to no end with the 100 GPD membrane.

yes you are both right... However, Albert and his distributor both were claiming that instead of the 8% differential in crystallized salts and TDS removal that DOW published in the filter specs. they suggested (are you ready?) that the efficiency in this regard is 25% more efficient with the 100 GPD filter. when I pointed this fact out to them. do you know how they responded? (are you sitting down?)

they said look at the specs. by DOW. they state that the specification test results "could" vary by +/- 20%

plus/minus is the key here. In other words... average.

This was a real slap in the face. sure results can and do vary and DOW and any manf. would rightfully place that disclaimer because there are variables but... to use the +20% to your advantage just to sell a product is just plain wrong. perhaps an average is more correct to say. And again, This is exactly what kept me at bay and from pulling the trigger and just returning the order. not to mention that it exhausted much time and effort in finding out the info.

still the POINT is that I ordered the 100 GPD filter and really I'm not concerned about the 8%. I would rather just get the additional 25 GPD that my filter unit was designed for. If I have to go through di resin faster than so be it. Thats pennies on the dollar. to me time is mony and the sooner I get my filtered gallons to use for my water changes the sonner I can get back to staring at my tank :)

thank you for posting. I really appreciate all of the support.
 
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actualy, here is dows disclaimer on thier spec sheet.

1. Permeate flow and salt rejection based on the following test conditions: 250 ppm softened tapwater, 77°F (25°C), 15% recovery and the specified applied pressure.
2. Minimum salt rejection is 96.0%.
3. Permeate flows for individual elements may vary +/-20%.

so #2 states min. salt rejection can be only 2% less than 98% tested result.

The +/- 20% is actually on the GPD amounts for individule filters.

so- efficiency in terms of salt rejection is alot closer than even the GPD generated by the filter.

Just wanted to clarify what I said further. I still agree with both of you though.
 
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Ben,
Just so we have the facts straight.
You implying that we sent you 75gpd membrane instead of 100gpd membrane without your knowledge.

When you call us to add the membrane to your order I specifically told you that we only have 75gpd membrane that is tested to be more efficient than standard 100gpd membrane. You told me to send it to you.
After you received your order, you contacted us that you need the evidence that the 75gpd membrane is actually more efficient.
At that point I contacted our RO supplier and instructed them to send you all the data you requested.
After couple weeks of exchanging emails with them you were still not convinced so we decided to send you 2nd membrane, this time 100gpd one, free of charge. Since we do do not carry those we arranged it to be shipped to you directly from manufacturer.
After you received 2nd membrane you contacted us that the membrane you received arrived used. I called the manufacturer and they ensured me that there is no way that they would send an used membrane and that some membranes can be a little more wet than others simply because the way they are tested.
Since you did not want to hear that I instructed you to send both membranes back to us for full refund. After that we did not hear back from you for over a month.

About digital meters.
You indicated that you are looking for continuous use calcium and nitrate meters, something that you can use just like pH meter.
I did not recommend these to you simply because they are not designed to be used continuously. That's all.
Trust me, there is no conspiracy theory going on here.

Like I told you several times before, you can return the membranes for full refund and if any of the lamps we sent you is defective, simply send it in and we'll send you replacement one.

Albert
www.aquacave.com
 
Oh really? thats why you wrote on my invoice in black and white, 100 GPD filter? Why would you not imput 75GPD if that is what you were sending me?

Its obviouse that from the start you did not intend on taking care of me. From the start you hav'nt done the right thing.

The membranes are not the only issue here. I know I made that very clear above. You said that I did not offer you an explination of what was wrong but its right here twice in plain view and you can read it yourself.
 
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I RESPONDED TO ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT YOU HAD FOR ME. YOU HAV'NT RESPONDED TO MANY I POSTED HERE.

WHY SHOULD I TRUST WHAT YOU SAY? FROM THE START YOU HAV'NT DONE WHAT YOU SAID YOU WOULD.

ITS CLEAR THE TYPE OF BUIZNESS YOU RUN. A SCAM!

YOU WON'T SAY IT BUT ITS CLEAR YOU WILL NOT REFUND ME OR REPLACE ANYTHING. DON'T TRUST YOU AND DON'T BELEIVE IT.

WHY DON'T YOU ANSWER IF YOU WILL SEND REPLACEMENTS FIRST? WHY? CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU WON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS. AND YOU WON'T TAKE CARE OF ME AND YOU KNOW IT.

LET THIS BE A LESSON LEARNED. I WILL DO WHATEVER I CAN TO SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT YOUR COMPANY. ITS PLAIN TO SEE HOW YOU TREAT PEOPLE...

THANK YOU REEF CENTRAL MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN SOOO SUPORTIVE OF ME. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE. SO MANY OF YOU PM'ED ME AND OFFERED ADVICE OF WHAT I SHOULD DO ABOUT THIS... YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, SO THANKS.

ALBERT...YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON. HEARTLESS!
LESSON LEARNED!
 
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I LEARNED MY LESSON...HOWEVER, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS ORDER WILL COST YOU MORE $$$ THAN IT COST ME. THAT'S A PART OF THE BUISNESS LESSON THAT YOU WILL LEARN.

BUYER BEWARE!
 
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