mustang51js
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i saw on a website,just take a piece of painters tape and tape the magfloat to the glass,then go to otherside and put the magnet to it.
nullmn's in-wall tank build
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mcliffy2
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nullmn - I would suggest a black pvc sheet attached with high energy stick-on magnets (much easier to remove than velcro). Actually I was just thinking of something cool, the sheets are pretty cheap ($22), I wonder what a grey or white backdrop would look like...it would definitely make your tank stand out. You could even buy a few and switch them depending on your mood. Or if you are someone you know is artistic, you could paint it to add even more depth like this: http://glassbox-design.com/2008/the-illusion-of-depth-uwe-breuers-reef/
Here are links to the products, just so happens it comes in 24x48 sheets, perfect for your tank
PVC Sheet:
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/va...ry_name=115&product_id=10432&variant_id=42487
Peel n stick high energy magnets (go with the 1"):
http://allmagnetics.com/craft/highenergy.htm
Here are links to the products, just so happens it comes in 24x48 sheets, perfect for your tank
PVC Sheet:
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/va...ry_name=115&product_id=10432&variant_id=42487
Peel n stick high energy magnets (go with the 1"):
http://allmagnetics.com/craft/highenergy.htm
Hello Triton1!
Heh, yeah I wrestled with that one for awhile. I love the look and ease of access of a rimless tank. From the living room side the rimless aspect is lost but I can appreciate it when I am on the garage side when I am either working on the tank or doing my other hobby stuff.
My experience is that I often end up regretting 'cheaper'. It happens too that I regret wasting money on something that ends up being unnecessary or items being cheap despite the price. But in this case I knew that a quality made tank, with all the features I was looking for, was something I would not regret buying in the long run.
Nick
Heh, yeah I wrestled with that one for awhile. I love the look and ease of access of a rimless tank. From the living room side the rimless aspect is lost but I can appreciate it when I am on the garage side when I am either working on the tank or doing my other hobby stuff.
My experience is that I often end up regretting 'cheaper'. It happens too that I regret wasting money on something that ends up being unnecessary or items being cheap despite the price. But in this case I knew that a quality made tank, with all the features I was looking for, was something I would not regret buying in the long run.
Nick
stocking recommendations
stocking recommendations
Hello all!
My intention is for this tank to be an sps acro tank. I am envisioning 6 to 10 fish in there and I thought I would look into getting started on the fish stocking first (since opening up the living room wall I have been getting pressure from the spouse to get something to look at in there).
In the past I would see a fish at the lfs that I liked the look of and bring it home. This time I'd like to have at least some kind of shopping list before I get started. I'd also like to veer away from the stuff that is so common at the lfs.
Here is my list so far, in no particular order and there are more on the list than will end up in the tank. Please recommend deletions, additions or incompatibilities! Thanks!
Note: I include a link to google images but some of the images returned are way off so take the results with some caution
Chalk Bass (Serranus tortugarum)
Tobacco Basslet (Serranus tabacarius )
Clown Goby, Green (Gobiodon atrangulatus)
Swallowtail Angelfish (Genicanthus melanospilus)
Tail Spot Blenny (Ecsenius stigmatura)
Bicolor Blenny (Ecsenius bicolor)
Blue Reef Chromis (Chromis cyaneus)
Neon Pseudochromis - Tank-Bred (Pseudochromis aldabraensis)
Clown Tang (Acanthurus lineatus)
Sohal Tang (Acanthurus sohal)
Two Spot Bristletooth Tang (Ctenochaetus binotatus)
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse, Male (Paracheilinus mccoskeri)
Exquisite Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus exquisitus)
Regards,
Nick
stocking recommendations
Hello all!
My intention is for this tank to be an sps acro tank. I am envisioning 6 to 10 fish in there and I thought I would look into getting started on the fish stocking first (since opening up the living room wall I have been getting pressure from the spouse to get something to look at in there).
In the past I would see a fish at the lfs that I liked the look of and bring it home. This time I'd like to have at least some kind of shopping list before I get started. I'd also like to veer away from the stuff that is so common at the lfs.
Here is my list so far, in no particular order and there are more on the list than will end up in the tank. Please recommend deletions, additions or incompatibilities! Thanks!
Note: I include a link to google images but some of the images returned are way off so take the results with some caution
Chalk Bass (Serranus tortugarum)
Tobacco Basslet (Serranus tabacarius )
Clown Goby, Green (Gobiodon atrangulatus)
Swallowtail Angelfish (Genicanthus melanospilus)
Tail Spot Blenny (Ecsenius stigmatura)
Bicolor Blenny (Ecsenius bicolor)
Blue Reef Chromis (Chromis cyaneus)
Neon Pseudochromis - Tank-Bred (Pseudochromis aldabraensis)
Clown Tang (Acanthurus lineatus)
Sohal Tang (Acanthurus sohal)
Two Spot Bristletooth Tang (Ctenochaetus binotatus)
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse, Male (Paracheilinus mccoskeri)
Exquisite Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus exquisitus)
Regards,
Nick
mcliffy2
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The blue reef chromis are really tough shippers IME - I bought 9 of them, zero made it. Green chromis are much better choice - they are common, but a school of them is really cool. Also, I think you need a lot more fish to keep up with your skimmer 
Your corals will benefit from it as SPS feed off the fish poo. I would suggest the above mentioned school of 5-7 chromis, and also at least 3-4 anthias of some variety, in addition to the stocking list you have there. A school of cardinalfish would also be cool.
Your corals will benefit from it as SPS feed off the fish poo. I would suggest the above mentioned school of 5-7 chromis, and also at least 3-4 anthias of some variety, in addition to the stocking list you have there. A school of cardinalfish would also be cool.Hi mcliffy2!
Interesting, my experience with the Green chromis is that they initially school together and look great but they soon start into a program of killing each other off one at a time.
It turns out I was not alone in this problem. I received a recommendation for the blue reef chromis because they did not do this.
I know I said 6-10 fish in the tank but I know there will be more than that at the end of the day. I would count a school of 6 chromis as '1'
Thanks for the suggestion of anthias and cardinalfish!
Nick
Interesting, my experience with the Green chromis is that they initially school together and look great but they soon start into a program of killing each other off one at a time.
It turns out I was not alone in this problem. I received a recommendation for the blue reef chromis because they did not do this.I know I said 6-10 fish in the tank but I know there will be more than that at the end of the day. I would count a school of 6 chromis as '1'
Thanks for the suggestion of anthias and cardinalfish!
Nick
mcliffy2
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Whoever "they" is, did not run an ATB skimmer You could easily get 20 in that tank. With old equipment you would have been more limited...
I have also heard that about green chromis. I do have a hypothesis that they do this when not provided a proper staghorn home. I have 5 that school happily together most of the time. Occasionally there is some aggression, but when that occurs, the one being picked on just darts into his/her spot in my staghorns. It my theory that without a proper place in a coral for each fish, the aggression can be too much. I also wonder if sometimes those reports come when aggression is due to the chronic underfeeding that is widespread in the hobby (I feed 5-6x a day). Fish are generally more aggressive when underfed. Again this is all theory, but so far I've had good luck with my school of five (6+ months). As my staghorns grow and expand the "neighborhood" for chromis, I'm going to add more.
You could easily get 20 in that tank. With old equipment you would have been more limited...I have also heard that about green chromis. I do have a hypothesis that they do this when not provided a proper staghorn home. I have 5 that school happily together most of the time. Occasionally there is some aggression, but when that occurs, the one being picked on just darts into his/her spot in my staghorns. It my theory that without a proper place in a coral for each fish, the aggression can be too much. I also wonder if sometimes those reports come when aggression is due to the chronic underfeeding that is widespread in the hobby (I feed 5-6x a day). Fish are generally more aggressive when underfed. Again this is all theory, but so far I've had good luck with my school of five (6+ months). As my staghorns grow and expand the "neighborhood" for chromis, I'm going to add more.
Hello All!
An update! Well, my fish list went out the window after a couple of trips to Amazing Aquariums and Reefs. I ended up getting a purple tang and some Bartlett's Anthias as well as some SPS/LPS corals and clams.
Here is an updated FTS:
I still need to get the black background cover for the tank so my apologies for the view into the messy garage.
Regards,
Nick
An update! Well, my fish list went out the window after a couple of trips to Amazing Aquariums and Reefs. I ended up getting a purple tang and some Bartlett's Anthias as well as some SPS/LPS corals and clams.
Here is an updated FTS:
I still need to get the black background cover for the tank so my apologies for the view into the messy garage.
Regards,
Nick
Beautiful fish and coral...very, very nice...
Is it my old eyes, or does the water look higher on the right than it is on the left side of the tank in your photos? Out of level?
LL
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14884085#post14884085 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nullmn
Here is a pic of the tank from the garage side:
Is it my old eyes, or does the water look higher on the right than it is on the left side of the tank in your photos? Out of level?
LL
Hi!
Lightsluvr:
Thanks!
In that picture I had the 3 tunze pumps running at full blast. That was enough to lower the water level on the left side (where the pumps are) and raise it on the right side (where the water was being pushed).
Now that I have some sand in the tank the tunze pumps are turned down and the water level looks better.
Nick
Lightsluvr:
Thanks!
In that picture I had the 3 tunze pumps running at full blast. That was enough to lower the water level on the left side (where the pumps are) and raise it on the right side (where the water was being pushed).
Now that I have some sand in the tank the tunze pumps are turned down and the water level looks better.
Nick
Hello again!
Well, it has been some time since I posted anything to this thread! I had some good success with the tank for the past year and then things started to go badly in early November. Corals started browning up and things started dying. :-( Everything I tested for was fine and I started 50g water changes every week. After about 400g worth of water changes things things were still not improving so I decided it was time to do some cleanup. Perhaps something was leaching from the live rock?
I put the fish and corals into a storage bin and emptied the main tank. I then gave the tank a good cleaning and used the shop vac to clean out the layer of silt from the bottom of the tank. I put down 5 bags of sand and refilled the tank. The remote DSB was removed and the rock removed.
The corals and fish were put back in the tank along with a couple pieces of new rock. This was temporary for a couple of days before the re-aquascaping.
I then drained the sump and cleaned out the gunk that had accumulated at the bottom of that over the past year. It wasn't actually as bad as I feared but it was good to get that layer of 'silt' (yeah, let's call it that) out of there.
A few days later Ali, from Amazing Aquariums and Reefs, came by and helped me with the aquascaping. I've always liked the layout he does for his tanks and welcomed him setting up mine. Two days later the tank now looks like this
Already the frog spawn is opening up more and some of the corals are starting to get some color back on their tips.
I'll post some more pictures soon.
Nick
Well, it has been some time since I posted anything to this thread! I had some good success with the tank for the past year and then things started to go badly in early November. Corals started browning up and things started dying. :-( Everything I tested for was fine and I started 50g water changes every week. After about 400g worth of water changes things things were still not improving so I decided it was time to do some cleanup. Perhaps something was leaching from the live rock?
I put the fish and corals into a storage bin and emptied the main tank. I then gave the tank a good cleaning and used the shop vac to clean out the layer of silt from the bottom of the tank. I put down 5 bags of sand and refilled the tank. The remote DSB was removed and the rock removed.
The corals and fish were put back in the tank along with a couple pieces of new rock. This was temporary for a couple of days before the re-aquascaping.
I then drained the sump and cleaned out the gunk that had accumulated at the bottom of that over the past year. It wasn't actually as bad as I feared but it was good to get that layer of 'silt' (yeah, let's call it that) out of there.
A few days later Ali, from Amazing Aquariums and Reefs, came by and helped me with the aquascaping. I've always liked the layout he does for his tanks and welcomed him setting up mine. Two days later the tank now looks like this
Already the frog spawn is opening up more and some of the corals are starting to get some color back on their tips.
I'll post some more pictures soon.
Nick
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