Ocean Flo Maxijet Mods...

[Doni]

At MACNA, I purchased two Ocean Flo Maxijet mods for the 1200 model. I installed one mod and it work AWESOME!! It took 3.2 seconds to snap on the new mod and it REALLY increases the output! I definately only need one of these in my 90 and it has to be on an intermittent wave timer to keep from blowing my corals too hard!

I HIGHLY recommend this mod! In the photo below, you can see my homemade 'vortex' blocker made out of clear plastic If this unit is within 4" of the water's surface, a vortex blocker is needed. I have conveniently super glued it onto a mag float.

This thing rocks!!

 

[dvanacker]

Marineland or how ever makes Maxijets is losing out on huge money .....

I don't know why the makers of MJ's wouldn't offer a version of this. some guy in a suit is kicking himself right now.

 

[Doni]

For those interested --> http://www.reefdom.com/default.asp

 

[mburnickas]

what is the gph here? Looks nice but mjmods looks less $$$$

 

[Doni]

The mj1200 kit = 3300 gph? I'll double check when I get home.
It moves a LOT of water.

 

[gastone]

Those do look sharp, but for the price I'd stick with the mjmods. Might not look quite as crisp and refined, but for the price...

Or for the same price you could get the 6025 nano stream.

Just a thought.

That sure does have a nice fit and finish though. Kudos.

Garrett.

 

[dhnguyen]

The "OceanFlo" kit may be nice but that price is ridiculous IMO.

You're better off with http://mjmods.com

It also probably doesn't make sense for Marineland to invest in doing this since the market for MJs are fo rregular powerhead whereas the need for propeller driven pumps is very small and niche market. Retooling is a very expensive process

 

[dvanacker]

ya your right..... there obviously is no market for prop driven power heads....

If you can't tell that was sarcastic. Look what people pay for prop pumps.... I think if they were on top of the game they could have made a lot of money.

 

[RichConley]

I agree. The whole problem here, is that there IS a market, adn Marineland doesnt think there is.

I know the guys who make those Ocean Flo maximods, and theyre selling a LOT of them. The fact that there are so many SEIOs out there is the same thing. Theres plenty of market for high flow/low energy stream style pumps....

Marineland just doesnt get it.

 

[dhnguyen]

As "large" as one may think the demand is for propeller driven pumps, it compares nothing to the sheer volume being sold for just regular powerheads. Don't forget the freshwater aquarists as well which would indeed dwarf the prop driven pump market.

Retooling for mass manufacturing is not cheap neither is research/development and QA and in the grander shcme of things, it may not make sense for this investment for nominal return. I mean how much more can Marineland expect to price the mod for and expect to sell? I couldn't see more than $20-$30. Not enough to justify the cost of manufacturing, marketing, etc... IMO.

This is all my opinion and general knowledge in R&D and manufacturing.

 

[mdt178]

If Marineland bought out Reefdom/Reef Flo and put out a decent mount for the kit, I wouldn't mind paying $50, pump included of course.

 

[Doni]

True, there are cheaper mods available for sure but this kit is perfect for those that lack the tools/time/interest to DIY but yet do not want to pay the $$ for the higher priced power heads (read tunze). IMO, $45 (MACNA price) was well worth getting 3,000+ gph broad flow in my tank with no effort or time involved

 

[dhnguyen]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8268559#post8268559 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mdt178
If Marineland bought out Reefdom/Reef Flo and put out a decent mount for the kit, I wouldn't mind paying $50, pump included of course.

But why would they (Marineland) need to buy anything? This design is pretty much public knowledge and no patent can be filed against. Also I would think it would take A LOT of people wanting to pay for the $50 version of this pump to make it worth investing in new tooling and engineering/QA cost.

Don't forget, we're not talking about just adding a shroud here but also a modifed magnet/impeller to hold a propeller as well as a longer stainless steel center rod. As a finished product, you would also expect that the propeller be made replaceable and be sold separately as well for spare parts. All these changes will add up up rather quickly in design and manufacturing cost IMO.


D.

 

[Kreeger1]

If you take a look at it, saltwater equipment is such a small percentenage of the big companies like marinelands sales. Its really not worth the time in headaches to them to make a add on part to there powerhead. I'm guessing theres 500 freshwater tanks to 1 saltwater tank out there, and freshwaer tanks don't need that kind of flow.
Erik

 

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8268727#post8268727 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kreeger1
If you take a look at it, saltwater equipment is such a small percentenage of the big companies like marinelands sales. Its really not worth the time in headaches to them to make a add on part to there powerhead. I'm guessing theres 500 freshwater tanks to 1 saltwater tank out there, and freshwaer tanks don't need that kind of flow.
Erik

Depends on the freshwater tank. I had a bunch of 500gph powerheads in my african cichlid tank, and was told I should be up over 20x turnover.

If I could have done that with 1 or 2 powerheads instead of a dozen, I would have been all over it.

 

[Kreeger1]

again, chiclids not the common freshwater tank. Just look at the big picture for companies, The customer support for those things would be enough to not make them alone. imo

 

[RichConley]

Kreeger, if its profitable for TAAM, why would it not be profitable for Marineland?

Theres less fabrication needed, less support, and its a cheaper and superior product.

 

[Kreeger1]

the sio is a seperate pump, not add on parts though

 

[RichConley]

Kreeger, which makes it more expensive. They had to design new motors, new pump bodies, etc. All marineland would have to design is a new impeller fitting, and a housing.

They'd be replacing just the volute and impellar.


I'm not saying marineland should sell a conversion kit: Far from it. They shoudl sell a maxi-stream pump. IE a converted maxijet.

 

[Kreeger1]

ASk them why, they'd tell you theres not enough money to be made in it, R and D, testing ect. Im not going to argue this anymore, if it was a good thing for them to do they would. knowone would pass up easy money if its really there. It just wouldn't happen.
And R and D has anyone tested the life span of these, would a maxi jet live 5-110 years like they do no running these mods? Not worth the headaches to a big company
IMO
erik