Vili_Shark
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Looks like there's enough for everybody, prices should drop.
Odontanthias borbonius anthias
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achillesheel
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anybody? reef/ species tank? im curious.
p.s. im getting excited. my pair come in tomorrow. right now im planning on putting them into my 75g "qt" that is in line with the rest of my system.
p.s. im getting excited. my pair come in tomorrow. right now im planning on putting them into my 75g "qt" that is in line with the rest of my system.
Hormigaquatica
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I had the privilege of seeing the Entire group together (perks of working in that shop). I can tell you that the majority of them are being held in a tank running about 75 degrees, and they seem to handle it just fine- they havent showed any kind of stress from it (eating aggressively, alert, active, etc). 2 of them did end up moving into the store's 450g display reef; the temp there hovers closer to 80 most of the time. Again, they seem to be fine with it. I would be hesitant about keeping them at temps higher than that long term, and you may get nicer coloration and more activity at temps lower than that, but it doesnt seem to affect them too badly. Really a stunning fish- wish I had a tank suitable for them at home.
sonomanapa
Premium Member
I got my little Borbonius about 2 weeks ago. He loves to eat PE Mysid enriched with Tropic Marin Lipo and immuvit.
He seems a little shy and stays in a cave most of the day, every now and then I will catch him exploring around his new found home.
I have noticed he comes out more when I turn off the pumps for feeding or maintenance ( Vortech blowing across tank). Not used to the heavy current?
Hopefully he will get used to the current and bright lights.
Cheers
He seems a little shy and stays in a cave most of the day, every now and then I will catch him exploring around his new found home.
I have noticed he comes out more when I turn off the pumps for feeding or maintenance ( Vortech blowing across tank). Not used to the heavy current?
Hopefully he will get used to the current and bright lights.
Cheers
achillesheel
New member
how is everybody else's doing? mine ate mysis the first evening and are so beautiful. still in "qt".
also does anybody see an issue with adding a pair of cherry anthias in with these guys in a cool 60g cube? just curious. thinking about doing a tank at around 68* to 70* and having the foursome in there. any thoughts
also does anybody see an issue with adding a pair of cherry anthias in with these guys in a cool 60g cube? just curious. thinking about doing a tank at around 68* to 70* and having the foursome in there. any thoughts
triggerfish1976
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I wouldn't add cherry anthias especially in a 60. All of the Cherry's that I have seen are very agressive and I most come in around 4" + range.
The Borbonius can also be pretty agressive so I see them fighting sooner or later.
The Borbonius can also be pretty agressive so I see them fighting sooner or later.
myerst2
Active member
Well after two days my Borbonius seems to have adjusted well. He was harassed a little bit by my powder blue but that has stopped. He has found a cave and is very reclusive until food hits the water and is a very agressive feeder, but quickly returns to his hideout. I feel the fish has adjusted as well as any other fish that I have acquired. Hopefully he will begin to grow a pair and begin to swim in open water. If not I'm happy to have a well adjusted fish that seems to against the norm with these fish. I've changed the pc bulbs in the this particular tank to be a bit darker. Also I have begun to bring the temp down and will keep it at 76-77f. Taking a picture is almost imposible. This is the best I could do and looks like a disposable camera. Regards, Tim
achillesheel
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this must have been a really heathy batch. everybody's seem to be doing well. has anybody seen any signs of flatworms or any other diseases? does anybody know where this group came from?
sonomanapa
Premium Member
He now comes out quite often.
DeltecRules
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I haven't seen any other online vendors getting any in. So far online its phishybusiness. I am surprised liveaquaria couldn't get there hands on any.
Scott
Scott
myerst2
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I got mine from a LFS on Long Island in NY. They have been getting rare fish for decades and seem to have first dibs on the exotics just like Old Town Aquarium. They have a few more of these Borbonius. They also have 3 clarions available, 3 Rhinopias, jocular. Mitratus, golden hearts, zebra horned shraks, clown tile, and a bunch of other goodies. What have people been paying for their Borbonius? I see no signs of worms. I gave him a bath just to be sure but saw no problems while viewing him in the store. I remember the last time I saw these guys come in and they looked horrible. Most were suffering from poor de-compression as well as being completely emaciated. This current batch were feeding like blue devil damsels in the dealers tanks. I have never seen any anthias feed the way this fish did and has continued to do so at home. I just wish he would show his face a bit more. I noticed that the one I got has a "streamer" at the end of its dorsal, whereas the other didn't. Is this a way of determining sex? So how much have you all paid for yours? Mines a good 3 1/2". How big do they get? Wish all continued success with a very cool fish. Going to feed the tank for the 10th or so time and try and get that elusive picture. Regards, Tim
sugartooth
Reef bully
I got mine. Can someone tell me if I need to worry about the fins. They look a little tattered and in between the rays, there are some cloudy spots.
Will this go away on their own? I have started feeding vitachem and beta glucan soaked foods. I also soak in spirulina and vibrance (alternating)
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/nullcable/2284536453/" title="odon anthias #5 by nullcable, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2329/2284536453_7f98d9d5a8_o.jpg" width="640" height="442" alt="odon anthias #5" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/nullcable/2284536457/" title="odon anthias #6 by nullcable, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2406/2284536457_f3335f63fe_o.jpg" width="564" height="480" alt="odon anthias #6" /></a>
Thanks very much for any input. I wish there was more info on them....I really like these guys! I hope they will do well.
Will this go away on their own? I have started feeding vitachem and beta glucan soaked foods. I also soak in spirulina and vibrance (alternating)
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/nullcable/2284536453/" title="odon anthias #5 by nullcable, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2329/2284536453_7f98d9d5a8_o.jpg" width="640" height="442" alt="odon anthias #5" /></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/nullcable/2284536457/" title="odon anthias #6 by nullcable, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2406/2284536457_f3335f63fe_o.jpg" width="564" height="480" alt="odon anthias #6" /></a>
Thanks very much for any input. I wish there was more info on them....I really like these guys! I hope they will do well.
Vili_Shark
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The frosted white color comes only after they come in contact with fresh water, ya cant see them otherwise.
DFS
.Registered Member
Scott,
We currently have 15 Odontanthias borbonius in stock, both large and small, and all of them have been quarantined and conditioned properly and we will begin to start offering these fish on the LiveAquaria.com website mid to late next week in our Diver’s Den section. Just like all of the Diver's Den fish, we choose to properly quarantine, medicate, de-worm, and condition all fish before offering them to our valued customers so that we can limit any potential problems that may arise with shipping freshly imported fish to customers.
Like other Anthias, Odontanthias borbonius will oftentimes be infested with flukes, and one of the three batches of these fish we received in the last month definitely were infected with these parasites. This was nothing that couldn’t be overcome with some freshwater baths, formalin and malachite green.
Other posts,
I was fortunate enough to obtain and personally own three specimens early last year when they first hit the US market. I understand that numerous people had problems with these fish, mainly swim bladder infections or damage due to improper decompression.
I have housed three Odontanthias borbonius in my 120-gallon reef aquarium in my office for over 8 months. These fish were introduced into a well-established SPS aquarium with large Acropora spp. colonies, 1300 watts of metal halide lighting, and 4 VorTech pumps, and temperature of 77-78 degrees.
The fish that were in the aquarium when the Borbs were introduced, which I have owned for many years, and are still thriving today, consists of 1- pair of Serranocirrhitus latus, 1-pair of Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis, 1- Cirrhilabrus cf. 1 (Nahacky's fairy wrasse collected by Tony himself in Fiji), 1- Cirrhilabrus cf. lanceolatus (Pin Tail Wrasse) 1- Paracheilinus rubricaudalis 1- pair of Yellow Fijian Atrosalarias fuscus var., and 1- Fiji Neocirrhitus armatus.
The Borbs were quick to settle in and adjust to the very strong current, and intense lighting, spending most of their time under large plating corals the majority of the day. After a few days they developed a very distinct pecking order within the group, and they were not harassed at all by either of the Serranocirrhitus latus. These fish definitely do not group together as they keep their distance from one another, and all three fish have their own personal space in different parts of my aquarium.
Odontanthias borbonius seem to be very shy fish, and do not prefer to bask under halides, and they can always be found underneath coral heads. I feed my aquarium very small quantities of food 4-5 times per day, to keep the body weight up on all of the Anthias. One interesting note is that these fish will be very active at dusk, and also when the lights initially go off on the aquarium, as they will all be out in the open during this time swimming in the current of the VorTech.
IMO the ideal set up for these fish is a dimly lit aquarium that has numerous vertical walls with horizontal overhangs, which I would think this is more in line with their natural habitat. Fortunately, these fish do seem to adapt to SPS aquariums with more intense light, as long as they are not maintained with territorial tank mates, and there is plenty of overhangs and hiding places for them to get out of the light when they feel the need.
I am very excited to see more of these beautiful fish in the trade, and am glad that numerous enthusiasts here on RC are able to enjoy this fish in their own aquarium. Discovering new things, and observing the behavior of fish that are not prevalent in the aquarium trade is one of the most enjoyable aspects of the hobby to me.
Regards,
Kevin Kohen
Director of LiveAquaria
Drs. Foster and Smith
We currently have 15 Odontanthias borbonius in stock, both large and small, and all of them have been quarantined and conditioned properly and we will begin to start offering these fish on the LiveAquaria.com website mid to late next week in our Diver’s Den section. Just like all of the Diver's Den fish, we choose to properly quarantine, medicate, de-worm, and condition all fish before offering them to our valued customers so that we can limit any potential problems that may arise with shipping freshly imported fish to customers.
Like other Anthias, Odontanthias borbonius will oftentimes be infested with flukes, and one of the three batches of these fish we received in the last month definitely were infected with these parasites. This was nothing that couldn’t be overcome with some freshwater baths, formalin and malachite green.
Other posts,
I was fortunate enough to obtain and personally own three specimens early last year when they first hit the US market. I understand that numerous people had problems with these fish, mainly swim bladder infections or damage due to improper decompression.
I have housed three Odontanthias borbonius in my 120-gallon reef aquarium in my office for over 8 months. These fish were introduced into a well-established SPS aquarium with large Acropora spp. colonies, 1300 watts of metal halide lighting, and 4 VorTech pumps, and temperature of 77-78 degrees.
The fish that were in the aquarium when the Borbs were introduced, which I have owned for many years, and are still thriving today, consists of 1- pair of Serranocirrhitus latus, 1-pair of Cirrhilabrus rhomboidalis, 1- Cirrhilabrus cf. 1 (Nahacky's fairy wrasse collected by Tony himself in Fiji), 1- Cirrhilabrus cf. lanceolatus (Pin Tail Wrasse) 1- Paracheilinus rubricaudalis 1- pair of Yellow Fijian Atrosalarias fuscus var., and 1- Fiji Neocirrhitus armatus.
The Borbs were quick to settle in and adjust to the very strong current, and intense lighting, spending most of their time under large plating corals the majority of the day. After a few days they developed a very distinct pecking order within the group, and they were not harassed at all by either of the Serranocirrhitus latus. These fish definitely do not group together as they keep their distance from one another, and all three fish have their own personal space in different parts of my aquarium.
Odontanthias borbonius seem to be very shy fish, and do not prefer to bask under halides, and they can always be found underneath coral heads. I feed my aquarium very small quantities of food 4-5 times per day, to keep the body weight up on all of the Anthias. One interesting note is that these fish will be very active at dusk, and also when the lights initially go off on the aquarium, as they will all be out in the open during this time swimming in the current of the VorTech.
IMO the ideal set up for these fish is a dimly lit aquarium that has numerous vertical walls with horizontal overhangs, which I would think this is more in line with their natural habitat. Fortunately, these fish do seem to adapt to SPS aquariums with more intense light, as long as they are not maintained with territorial tank mates, and there is plenty of overhangs and hiding places for them to get out of the light when they feel the need.
I am very excited to see more of these beautiful fish in the trade, and am glad that numerous enthusiasts here on RC are able to enjoy this fish in their own aquarium. Discovering new things, and observing the behavior of fish that are not prevalent in the aquarium trade is one of the most enjoyable aspects of the hobby to me.
Regards,
Kevin Kohen
Director of LiveAquaria
Drs. Foster and Smith
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