Odontanthias borbonius anthias

[flameangel88]

So sad to hear that. Looks like NYAquatic sold another batch in couple of weeks ago for $115 each and some of the pick ups right at the airport (JFK) and that should have been less stress with one less hand dealing with acclimation. Is it possible the buyers are not treating them for flukes or bacterial infection? I know the last couple of months angels, tangs and other fishes are coming in with flukes regardless its from lfs or various online vendors.

 

[sugartooth]

I've had them for a little over a week and they are aggressive.

I had peace in my QT and now I am going to dip and separate. The big bully looks fantastic, good color and positions himself right where the food comes and chases all others.

The other Borbs look raggedy and tore up. I'm not sure if they have anything or are just getting beat up in there. It's a chain reaction, big bully chases one, that one that's chased goes after the next, etc.

My other anthias in there are being chased. The only one that it leaves alone is my supermale pink margin.

I'm yanking one out to try and restore the peace.

Also, note that the tank is too small for them. I'm hoping that after they go in the large tank (750) there won't be this problem.

 

[john37]

hey guys, i got a couple questions...
- do these guys swim around a lot like other anthias or are they more like sunburst, sitting in a cave?
- can you tell the difference between male and female?
- can they be kept in groups? how big of a tank? or will they kill each other?

thanks, beautiful fish btw.

 

[sugartooth]

Only from my limited experience thus far:

- always out in the water
- find out real fast where the food comes from
- eats A BUNCH
- can't tell male and female
- the bigger the meaner
- needs BIG tank if more than one>100 gallons per fish

 

[sugartooth]

doh

 

[tobasdad]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12039700#post12039700 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by flameangel88
So sad to hear that. Looks like NYAquatic sold another batch in couple of weeks ago for $115 each and some of the pick ups right at the airport (JFK) and that should have been less stress with one less hand dealing with acclimation. Is it possible the buyers are not treating them for flukes or bacterial infection? I know the last couple of months angels, tangs and other fishes are coming in with flukes regardless its from lfs or various online vendors.

There was a batch that came in about 6 weeks ago that ended up being very shaky.

There's a new batch that came in about 2 weeks ago that seems rock solid. Eating like pigs from day 1, 0 losses.

And the suppliers in Bali have gotten wiser. They keep raising pricers to keep up with demand. Export prices are now 5x what they were last year.

 

[lunner]

I got a couple from NYAquatic almost 2 weeks ago.
I drove to pick them up myself after he acclaimated them.

I also think they are aggressive.

One is huge like 4+" the other 2.5"
The large one swim behind the rock shelves for almost a week eats very little, the small could't be found. No aggression observed.

This week, the large one swim out even when the lights are on during feeding time. Eats very aggressively (1st frozen mysis, then frozen formula 1, now even eats formula 1 &2 pallets).
Would chase my fishes (chased: male Lineatus wrasse, male Flame wrasse (leave female alone...), both male and female Bartlett's anthias) didn't chase the similar sized Watanabei Angels pair. Lost the male Flame Wrasse yesterday.

The smaller one die a few days ago. Didn't really eat and wasn't really been chased after.

I am adding a smaller 1.5" today and see what happen.

Here is a pic of my large one

 

[lunner]

Oh forgot, the chasing usually happen during feeding time.

For now it is much more willing to swim out and active when the lights aren't on during the day. But will swim out a bit when the lights are on. I mean they are from deep water after all?

 

[tobasdad]

Allen,

I am curious to hear how the big one welcomes the smaller addition.

Michael

 

[lunner]

Hi Michael

I acclaimated the little guy for like 3 1/2 hours. He came right out and browse around. The big one didn't pick on him at all (so far anyway). When the lights went on, the lil guy swim behind the rock shelves like the big one did when I first got him. I put some frozen food towards the back and he ate a little as well. So far so good.

I got a pic of him at the same spot as the big one when the lights were off for comparison.
Very cute looking.

 

[ssavader]

Does anyone know the name of this avian-marine flatworm? Any info would be appreciated that would allow for further investigation.

 

[MrSquid]

Just got an email from NY Aquatic - they have them back in @ $185

 

[sedgro]

Scott-

The flatworm is "Neobenedinia". See this thread:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1260067&highlight=flukes

They are very susceptible to a simple freshwater dip. Just about every fish out of Bali and Tonga is covered with them any more.

 

[MrSquid]

Are they aggressive towards each other, towards other anthias, or towards other fish in general?

 

[flameangel88]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12057964#post12057964 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MrSquid
Just got an email from NY Aquatic - they have them back in @ $185

The 2 over at LA DD are still there and more coming in from NYAquatic so we may be seeing price drop very soon. I think $350 is way too much.

The fish doesn't swim much and still basically hoovering at the same spot near the top has me worry. It does eat but not like a pig as most folks here said. I will update in a couple of days and in the mean time hope other folks would update their experience with the Borb.

 

[lunner]

The two I got now eats pretty aggressive.

MrSquid, I described how mine are doing and how aggressive they are a few posts above you.

 

[tobasdad]

These aren't triggers. However, I'd definitely say they are aggressive feeders. Pellets and mysis bring out a feeding frenzy.

 

[flameangel88]

I got 3 in last night on a special order from my lfs--1 lg 4-4.25" and 2 sm about 1.75" and the other is less than 1.5". The smallest one went in hiding in a cave but I can see it right next to the rock. The other 2 acclimated fine with the small one eat little but the big one hasn't start eating yet. About after an hour in the tank the big bully did bully the established med 3" Borb (from last Friday) but then moved onto the other side of the tank. So far the big bully hasn't bothered anyone in the tank including the small one and my PBT didn't bother the new Borbs either.

This batch looks very nice and here are a couple of pictures:
Look at the size difference bet the large and small

Large Borb next to my 4" + Butterfly

Two pictures of the small one:

So far, they don't swim too much and basically hang out in one spot till feeding time and they will swim very little toward the food. Hopefully the smallest one will come out for a photo shoot.

 

[CableGuy]

Here is mine, just got him Two day's ago. He eats frozen Mysis no problems at all. Stay's more to the shaded areas of the tank but will come out for food. He is about 4". He does not actively chase any fish around but he will chase a fish away if it gets a little to close to his personal space.

Colby

 

[lunner]

Very nice guys