% of losses using levimisole?

[The Saltman]

Hi guys,

I am going to be QT'ing sps corals and it seems levimisole is the best thing to use to protect against acro eating flatworms. However, I have read it can be harsh on some sps. How many of you have lost frags using levimisole and those that use it on a normal basis, what % of frags do you lose after treatment?

 

[poknsnok]

protect against? Only use it if you HAVE aefw.. and losses have been estimated at 20%.. use TMPCC for dips on frags. its harsh enough

 

[The Saltman]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12387257#post12387257 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by poknsnok
protect against? Only use it if you HAVE aefw.. and losses have been estimated at 20%.. use TMPCC for dips on frags. its harsh enough

Using Levimisole from my understanding while in qt can protect from AEFW. Some AEFW can get by some people while under close observation correct?

 

[johnnybravo234]

AEFW are very difficult to see. The only way to be sure is if you dip.. you may be horrified at the number you find.

 

[snorvich]

Does Salifert flatworm exit work on these?

 

[Denadai]

I gave 3 dip in all my SPS....100% survive with levamisole

2 hours each dip.....300mg for 1 gallon

 

[Philwd]

I've read many horror stories with levamisole but they mostly occur with repeated dips. It tends to kill the zooanthellae. Some people are using very high fluke tab dosages. I found TMPCC to let some through. Coral Revive has worked very well.

 

[mpoletti]

I know over a half dozen people who used to use TMPCC. They all switched to levamisole after having to set up QT systems It knock off a few and that is why people thinks it works.

I'll stick with the harch stuff; and there is still no guarentee with levamisole. The is not 100% method.

My losses have been less than 5%. I have dipped over 150 different hard corals using levamisole.

I also do like revive as well. I use it on all my LPS and Zoas. If I get wild SPS in, I also do a revive dip after the levamisole.

 

[tbone28]

been waiting for you to chime in, Mark

 

[fishdoc11]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12388662#post12388662 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by snorvich
Does Salifert flatworm exit work on these?

Not at all.

 

[fishdoc11]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12391322#post12391322 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Marko9
I know over a half dozen people who used to use TMPCC. They all switched to levamisole after having to set up QT systems

It would be wise to set up a QT no matter what dipping method you use.

The Saltman,
You might do a search for Travis's original treatmet thread. From what I have seen Levamisole is still the most reliable method but people have had varying luck with losses (~20% to ~ 80%). As far as successful treatments with minimal losses and long term success Travis is the best example I have seen.

hth, Chris

 

[mpoletti]

fishdoc11- How are things in your system these days? If you have a link to that original thread, could you PM it to me. I do not have the link saved on my new computer and I can not find it through the search.

I also know that hobogato had a great thread on his process

 

[seattownreefer]

sorri, what is tmpcc and where do you get levamisole? gonn a set up a quarintine system when i get back from vacation. thanks in advance.

 

[mpoletti]

Tropic Marine Pro coral cure. Levamisole is a soluble pig dewormer. You can find it at online feed/livestock distributors.

 

[fishdoc11]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12393043#post12393043 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Marko9
fishdoc11- How are things in your system these days? If you have a link to that original thread, could you PM it to me. I do not have the link saved on my new computer and I can not find it through the search.

I also know that hobogato had a great thread on his process

Thanks for asking
Things seem to be going well but I am perpetually knocking on wood and either trying not to look or scouring the nooks and crannies with a flashlight at night

So far so good....I just hope it stays that way.

I can't find Travis's thread either (I didn't ever save it) or I would be happy to post it. Here are some others that are good including hobogabato's:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=756327
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=688833&highlight=reef+temperature
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/s...page=25&highlight=AEFW treatment&pagenumber=3
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=899108&perpage=25&pagenumber=9

Chris

 

[mpoletti]

Thanks Chris, I am glad that things are on the upswing. I am always glad to see it when there are success stories, especially when it happens to the good guys.

 

[Dejavu]

I lost ~30% when I treated levamisole. I switched to TMPCC for the last few week of the treatment with zero losses. I now drip using TMPCC and have never had any losses.

 

[Travis]

fishdoc11,
The second link you posted is the thread you are thinking about. All of my treatment info is in there towards the last 80% of the thread.

 

[Travis]

I encountered probably 25%-30% losses using levamisole. A much lower percentage of coral loss than if I would have left my tank untreated and let the AEFW's continue to do their damage. These things are nasty and you do NOT want them in your tank. AEFW's and monti eating nudis are the 2 worst things that you can ever get into your tank.

You know how the saying goes.... An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.... Heck, I think that is going to be my sig line as it pertains so well to this hobby!

 

[Travis]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12387257#post12387257 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by poknsnok
protect against? Only use it if you HAVE aefw

No offense, but this is the worst advice I have seen in a while. I hope people don't follow it. When you get new corals in there is absolutely no way you can definitively tell if they do or don't have AEFW's. These things are next to invisible. Once you get them into an established tank, it will be a reefer's worst nightmare to fix the problem.