Official Royal Exclusiv Dream Box Owners Thread.

[slief]

It'll be fine, I have no issues with mine draining that far below the water level. I do wish that section was accessible to be able to clean it though


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I agree, that section should be accessible for cleaning or to simply change out bulkheads.

For what it's worth, when I designed my sump and fuge (not Dreamboxes unfortunately), I made the sock overflow compartment accessible and in hindsight, I wish I hadn't. There is a lot of turbulence in there and I get salt creep around the edges of it as a result. That said, because of the turbulence and flow going into the overflow compartment, detritus has never been in an issue. My sump is made from acrylic and I've never cleaned those compartment in the 7 years since installing it and I have two of those compartments. Each with a single drain line where as the Dreambox has a single compartment with multiple drainlines. There is absolutely no detritus or anything in there other than some sponges growing on the side walls. They are always clean and the Dreamboxes will be no different as that is a small compartment with a lot of flow going through it.

 

[slief]

The bulkhead size concern is understandable but those aren't bulkheads. On the smaller dreamboxes, there are the red pipes that are run through it. On the larger Dreamboxes with the unions, they are special unions that don't have a nut the underside. The hole into the dreambox is CNC'd out and the unions backside is glued into the dreambox. If one needed to increase the size, the hole could be routed out and a new PVC pipe inserted with a union on the top side. The issue I could see is that those pipes are fairly close together. I usually advise people to go as large as possible on the drains. It's easy to reduce the intake diameter using a reducer inside the unions bushing and since those bushings can be replaced, if you ever needed to go larger with the drain intakes, it would be a matter of getting new bushings which are usually in stock.

 

[ClownsRCoo]

That's a good point about the high flow in the inlet of the sump and you are right anything in it probably gets blown right out.


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[mike810]

How are you guys mounting float switches to the dream boxes? My old float switches were attached to brackets that went up and over the sump wall.

 

[slief]

How are you guys mounting float switches to the dream boxes? My old float switches were attached to brackets that went up and over the sump wall.

Personally, I like having my float switches mounted to cheap magnetic scrubbers. I use ones from Reef Fanatic that have a removable bracket on them which I epoxy to the scrubber. This makes it easy to raise or lower the float switches when you adjust your water level. Some people mount the float switches to probe holders.

 

[Klaus Jansen]

@Slief ..

Do not touch ..... Wife, Cat or Dog ?

best regards ... Klaus

 

[slief]

@Slief ..

Do not touch ..... Wife, Cat or Dog ?

best regards ... Klaus

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[ReefKeeper64]

Following along

 

[Shredded]

@Mike810 Beautiful box. I probably missed details but what size is it and what are your return pumps?

Marco and Scott, I am getting ready to set the tank this weekend! Finally the room is finished. I cannot believe has taken this long but it is close now.

Scott, on the subject of the union, I have the new hole drilled and am ready to glue the union in place, do you know if the factory installed unions are glued using PVC solvent cement or other? I want this to look identical to where you can't tell it was not made this way.

Attached some pics. Just grouted the floor and hung the grid work last weekend.

 

[slief]

@Mike810 Beautiful box. I probably missed details but what size is it and what are your return pumps?

Marco and Scott, I am getting ready to set the tank this weekend! Finally the room is finished. I cannot believe has taken this long but it is close now.

Scott, on the subject of the union, I have the new hole drilled and am ready to glue the union in place, do you know if the factory installed unions are glued using PVC solvent cement or other? I want this to look identical to where you can't tell it was not made this way.

Attached some pics. Just grouted the floor and hung the grid work last weekend.

They use PVC solvent and my even be heat welded on the back side similar to how the seams are done. PVC solvent should be fine but I would use the thick stuff if you can find it.

Looking great! Can't wait to see that thing come together!

 

[Shredded]

Thanks Scott! Yea, I don't think it is welded from underneath. I went back thru all my construction pictures and the box is assembled before those are installed so there wouldn't be access to the bottom. I was able to get the union that they use from you all so it is exactly the same as the others on the box. They are slightly modified and I had to do the same to mine. I used a forstner bit to do the cutting so the hole is perfect and I cut it 1/16 of an inch small so that I could lightly sand the coupling for a perfect fit. I can't believe that in a week, I will be setting my brand new, year old RE sump under the stand. But then the fun starts.

 

[mike810]

@Mike810 Beautiful box. I probably missed details but what size is it and what are your return pumps?

It's an 8D and I'll be using the RD3 150W return pump.

 

[mike810]

Thank you for sharing that info!! Marco and I were just talking about this yesterday! I asked him to get a measurement of the sock openings in a Dreambox we have at the Ft.Myers facility as I had a sneaky suspicion the 4" ones would work! I was measuring one of my 4" socks from another one of my systems and the inside diameter of the ring on the sock seemed to match up with the Dreambox metric sock size spec. The outside diameter of the ring in theory would sit nicely on the sock tray which had me thinking that depending on the way Germany measured the socks, the 4" ones would likely work fine. You saved him from having to take a measurement.

I have tried several different brands of 4" socks now and none of them fit. I think we need to find them in metric size in order for them to fit our dream boxes. I am still on the hunt for felt socks. I don't even want to run water thru the box until I can get my hands on felt socks. I can't imagine the nylon mesh socks catching anything other then food .

I was sockless in my previous tanks and the crud and sediment that would build up in the sump was ridiculous. I want this sump to stay squeaky clean.

 

[slief]

I have tried several different brands of 4" socks now and none of them fit. I think we need to find them in metric size in order for them to fit our dream boxes. I am still on the hunt for felt socks. I don't even want to run water thru the box until I can get my hands on felt socks. I can't imagine the nylon mesh socks catching anything other then food .

I was sockless in my previous tanks and the crud and sediment that would build up in the sump was ridiculous. I want this sump to stay squeaky clean.

Yea, we did realize here in the US that they need to be metric. The dreambox is unique in that it uses multiple rows of socks and will stop post particles even with the mesh socks. If you were in a pinch and really concerned you could cut a 4" felt sock and drop it into the mesh ones or even some filter floss in there. We will be getting felt socks in the US. They are waiting on samples in Germany and like you, I much prefer felt socks over mesh ones. IN Europe, it seems everybody prefers mesh. My guess is when we get our next major shipment, we will have a mess of felt socks in there. It's likely 90 days out though before we have them here.

 

[mike810]

I just placed an order for some felt socks in Asia, I am thinking these will fit. None of the socks here in the states fit the dream box.

 

[slief]

I just placed an order for some felt socks in Asia, I am thinking these will fit. None of the socks here in the states fit the dream box.

Please let me know if they work! Are they food grade? Would love to have a 2nd source if they work out.

 

[mike810]

Please let me know if they work! Are they food grade? Would love to have a 2nd source if they work out.

It says made for aquarium use to I figure they're safe. I will update when I get them in.

 

[ReefKeeper64]

A few more.

Mike, That's a great looking setup. Is that a 125x49x35 or another size?

 

[ReefKeeper64]

Strike that. I see you told shredded it is an 8D. I will look that up!

 

[mike810]

Mike, That's a great looking setup. Is that a 125x49x35 or another size?

Thanks bud. It is an 8D and it is a thing of beauty. My tank should be here in a couple of weeks so I'll post another round of pics when it's installed. Can't wait to put this dream box to work.