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My refugium is set up to specifically be on the right and I want it right there fed from the return pump and flowing back into return section of sump. If I use this sump the return section now is clear across the sump
 
Lol dang shredded we are definately thinking alike. Do you have a build thread going so I can check it out and get a glimpse of how yours is coming together?

I'm thinking I can maybe make the inverted sump work and save myself another 3-4 weeks of having them start over on the sump.

Where are you getting those polypropylene sheets from?
 
Well this sucks. They offered me a $64 discount if I took the inverted one they made by mistake. A whole 3% discount. I've been waiting 4 weeks and they screwed it up and the only person I would be doing a favor by taking it would be them and that's what I get offered? That's pretty weak. Then I'm told it's going to be another 5-6 weeks before I can get the new one built. Again, I can't see how that thing takes more than a week to build from start to finish. 1 day on the cnc cutting all the panels. One day to glue together and let dry over night, next day to apply the red seams. Another for dry time. One for fittings install. Then you package it up and ship.
 
Well this sucks. They offered me a $64 discount if I took the inverted one they made by mistake. A whole 3% discount. I've been waiting 4 weeks and they screwed it up and the only person I would be doing a favor by taking it would be them and that's what I get offered? That's pretty weak. Then I'm told it's going to be another 5-6 weeks before I can get the new one built. Again, I can't see how that thing takes more than a week to build from start to finish. 1 day on the cnc cutting all the panels. One day to glue together and let dry over night, next day to apply the red seams. Another for dry time. One for fittings install. Then you package it up and ship.

The time is the due to the other sumps on the production line at any given time. They typically have several on the line at a time and they have to do setup of the CNC programming too because each sump is typically different in terms of fittings and what not. Plus the CNC machines get setup for different sized sumps so they cut them in batches of similar size units.

The welding process is very time consuming. These aren't glued like typical acrylic. You glue one panel and let it set for 24 hours. Then glue another panel and let it sit again and repeat. Then they are welded and it's done one panel at a time.

Regarding the discount, my guess is that your sump would not sit for long there as they always have a substantial backlog of dreamboxes. I just sent you a PM.
 
I haven't started the build thread yet. I sign the contract on the house in two weeks, have design meetings in February and break ground in March. At that point I wanted to start a build thread and get ideas. The tank room will not be big. Room for the tank, two feet behind the tank to big double doors. Raised floor with a drain and about 5 x 4 feet of open space to the left of the tank for work room. small sink, salt water mixing station, etc.
Polypropylene Sheets are from Eplastics.com. 0.250 x 48 x 72 - 88.92
I was kind of going to do the same thing, in reverse. RE has a refugium in stock in Florida. It just so happens the size matches my sump size but the outlet is plumbed on the right instead of the left. I thought I might move the top off tank to the right, put the refugium on the left and let a branch off of the overflow feed the refugium directly and then plumb the output into an extra input to the sump? Seems like a good place for it, but I guess my only question is if I was using this to cultivate pods, would any pods survive or even make it back to the main tank going thru the filter socks, then skimming, then possible UV exposure all the way to the return pump.

Well... like I said before, you can't be in a hurry. I think the line forms at the rear. lol If you get out of line you have to start over. But... If you are spending this kind of money, be sure you are happy and don't settle if you won't like it. They want you to be happy also.
 
Polypropylene Sheets are from Eplastics.com. 0.250 x 48 x 72 - 88.92
I was kind of going to do the same thing, in reverse. RE has a refugium in stock in Florida. It just so happens the size matches my sump size but the outlet is plumbed on the right instead of the left. I thought I might move the top off tank to the right, put the refugium on the left and let a branch off of the overflow feed the refugium directly and then plumb the output into an extra input to the sump? Seems like a good place for it, but I guess my only question is if I was using this to cultivate pods, would any pods survive or even make it back to the main tank going thru the filter socks, then skimming, then possible UV exposure all the way to the return pump.

Well... like I said before, you can't be in a hurry. I think the line forms at the rear. lol If you get out of line you have to start over. But... If you are spending this kind of money, be sure you are happy and don't settle if you won't like it. They want you to be happy also.


The socks will trap the pods and the skimmer will also remove them. As such, you wouldn't want the refugium draining to the intake section or the skimmer section. It should ideally drain to any compartment after the skimmer compartment. UV exposure at rates of 90,000 µw/cm2 or higher won't hurt the pods. I run mine between 60,000 µw/cm2 and 70,000 µw/cm2 based on my flow rates although I do slow mine down at night when my RD3 closed loop slows way down for power savings and lower flow when the lights are off. Mine is however on a closed loop and I am not worried about the impact from that on my pod populations.
 
The socks will trap the pods and the skimmer will also remove them. As such, you wouldn't want the refugium draining to the intake section or the skimmer section. It should ideally drain to any compartment after the skimmer compartment. UV exposure at rates of 90,000 µw/cm2 or higher won't hurt the pods. I run mine between 60,000 µw/cm2 and 70,000 µw/cm2 based on my flow rates although I do slow mine down at night when my RD3 closed loop slows way down for power savings and lower flow when the lights are off. Mine is however on a closed loop and I am not worried about the impact from that on my pod populations.

Thanks Scott! I guess that answers that. Will you be getting more stock in Florida on the refugiums? I will just wait for one plumbed on the left.
 
Thanks Scott! I guess that answers that. Will you be getting more stock in Florida on the refugiums? I will just wait for one plumbed on the left.

I am not sure if there will be any more refugiums with the next container shipment. Truth is that since nobody knows we had them, they don't sell well.
 
I went on a rant on here when I had an issue with RE and I feel that's it's only fair to give them props for stepping up and helping to solve it. There was never any question that they would make me a new sump exactly how I ordered it, my main concern was having the production time start all over. I will respect the fact that they probably would not like me posting what they offered me as a solution because I wouldn't want it to be expected from them but I will say that they have given me 2 options to choose from and either one would make me more than happy. Thanks also to Slief on here for helping and getting involved. If you ever have any issues with anything with RE I would start with him. Very friendly and helpful.
 
Well these are ready in January....would be a great birthday present to myself this January. :D
Question thou, so the return lines come in on one side of the sump into the filter socks, from there they overflow into another set of socks followed by another set. Each getting smaller in micron ratings right. Then to the skimmer and so forth?

Corey
 
Hi Corey,
Not sure whom you were asking, but the short answer is yes, and does depend on the model and how many levels of filter socks you have.
 
Was just a general question to anyone really. That's a pretty cool concept, once again innovators in the game!

Corey
 
Just about to join the family! So i'm just about to finalize the order and I'm still a little confused as to what is going to be included in the dreambox. Here is what I have. I already have the return pump. Is there anything obvious that I'm missing? Thanks!
Matt

1 x dreambox-filter system size M(D-175-60) normal version

1 x red welds

1 x dreambox - milled cover suitable for skimmer Bubble King Superma 5

2 x dreambox - cable holder complete (D-K-1000) white assembly ex fa

1 x dreambox - LED lighting complete size M (D-175-x)

2 x dreambox special electrode-holder / probe holder/ GHL sensor-hol

1 x Bubble king Supermarin 300+RD3 Speedy (93/RD3/1)110V/60Hz

1 x dreambox - Silencer filter socks - inlay (D-F-1)
 
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Just about to join the family! So i'm just about to finalize the order and I'm still a little confused as to what is going to be included in the dreambox. Here is what I have. I already have the return pump. Is there anything obvious that I'm missing? Thanks!
Matt

1 x dreambox-filter system size M(D-175-60) normal version

1 x red welds

1 x dreambox - milled cover suitable for skimmer Bubble King Superma 5

2 x dreambox - cable holder complete (D-K-1000) white assembly ex fa

1 x dreambox - LED lighting complete size M (D-175-x)

2 x dreambox special electrode-holder / probe holder/ GHL sensor-hol

1 x Bubble king Supermarin 300+RD3 Speedy (93/RD3/1)110V/60Hz

1 x dreambox - Silencer filter socks - inlay (D-F-1)

Congrats! The one thing I don't see are the RD3 controller mounts. They attach to the back of the sump and provide a place to mount the RD3 controllers for things like your skimmer, return pump etc. What size display is this going on?
 
OK Great, thanks for the reassurance. I'm planning to just mount the controllers to the wall which the sump will be adjacent to, do you recommend against this?

It's for a 600gallon display.

Matt
 
OK Great, thanks for the reassurance. I'm planning to just mount the controllers to the wall which the sump will be adjacent to, do you recommend against this?

It's for a 600gallon display.

Matt

You can mount them where ever you want and if it's the wall you want to mount them on, that will work fine. I just didn't know if you were overlooking that one. The controller mounts work well in keeping the controllers close to the sump so you don't have a mess of wires running up the walls. The provide for a real clean look but every installation is different. I happen to like the controller mounts my self but others don't.
 
Slief so those controller mounts are an add-on feature? I thought the dreambox comes with then if you ordered equipment that has a RD3 controller.
 
Slief so those controller mounts are an add-on feature? I thought the dreambox comes with then if you ordered equipment that has a RD3 controller.

I would double check that with Torsten. I thought they were an add on but could be wrong. I will inquire myself for my own piece of mind.
 
2 of my controller holders were included, 1 for the return and 1 for the skimmer but when I ordered mine, I specified, "set up like set 5C with the following changes". That was the best way that if figured I would get it exactly how I wanted it and I'm sure they were included in the set price. Now, when I added the additional return pump, the controller holder was an additional 37.05 EUR so I am guessing they are optional and extra.
 
Just confirmed with RE and they are add ons. At least if they are if you don't buy the complete system.

So I was given some pics again and I'm pretty much back to where they were when I got my first set of pics. Should be getting close now.







The last few pics were just to show me they added the extra cord slits I wanted for my heater cords and other electronics.
 
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