Open Mouthed Clownfish

[daelie]

Hey all,

I'm in sort of a predicament here, but first of all the tank parameters.

1. How old is this aquarium? 1 year, but the fish in question are 2 years old

3. What is SG of this aquarium? How measured? 1.026 with a refractometer calibrated with a 1.026 solution

4. When was the last fish added to this aquarium? 4 Months ago

5. Was it quarantined? If so, how? And how long? Was it prophylactically treated? How? It was quarantined with copper, 1 month.


8. Please describe in detail, the appearance of the fish? If there is one or more pimples, are they lumpy? What color? The appearance of the fish looks perfectly fine, minus some whitish stuff on his lips, pics after.

9. Please describe the behavior of the fish as best you can. Is it acting reclusive? Is it always up towards the top of the aquarium? Is it avoiding light? How active is the fish? The current fish in question was perfectly fine for the past 2 years, eating a ton. Suddenly one day she stopped eating, and breathing a little faster each day, and her mouth is constantly open and a little swollen.

10. Is the fish eating? What?
I was feeding a mix between LRS Reef Frenzy and LRS Fish Frenzy each day, before the fish stopped eating.



So after that's out of the way, I will mention that this is the second time this has happened in a month. The first occurrence was with my female maroon on June 15, one day she stopped eating and I thought to be a little weird as she wouldn't leave the anemone at all, and the only thing I could see was her mouth being open and the tiniest bit of whiteness around it. I took a few pictures and some video of the first day that she stopped eating. I posted looking for a little help because her not eating was definitely a drastic change overnight and was told that she looked like she might have been stung in the mouth and to wait it out.

http://imgur.com/ILRypEB

http://imgur.com/jnoDM46

https://vimeo.com/170876874

24 hours later I took another video because her condition worsened and she was having trouble swimming and she had left the anemone.

https://vimeo.com/170999909

Very shortly after that, she passed.

A month later, after showing no real signs of anything during the time, my smaller clown is now experiencing the same symptoms, albeit he's lasting longer as it's been 3 days of him not eating, but his lips look a little whitish and swollen, and stopped even looking at the food, while his daily behavior has switched from 100% in the anemone to half the day hiding under a rock and half the day in the anemone. I feel my first problem may not have just been a sting. To note, no other inhabitants in the tank look to be taking any of these effects which are, royal gramma, blue/green chromis, yellow tang.

Any questions/clarifications or advice and I'll be very appreciative, thanks.

 

[ThRoewer]

1 month copper is neither enough nor effective. It also only treats ich and maybe velvet. Brooklynella, Uronema and plenty of others are completely unaffected. Even worse, they may actually profit from the cooper as that compromises the fish's immune system.

This looks a bit like Brooklynella, though some of the typical symptoms are missing.

Which was the last fish that was added and how is he doing?

 

[daelie]

The last fish added was a yellow tang about 4-5 months ago. He's doing fine, grazes most of the day and a pretty voracious eater come feeding time.


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[ThRoewer]

He could be immune to whatever the other fish got, but still a carrier of the parasite and infect other fish.

One thing I do with all new fish is to give them a formalin bath before adding them even to a QT. That usually takes care of brook, Uronema and may also dislodge velvet.

 

[daelie]

So maybe a formalin dip would be in order? I can't get any 37% until tomorrow but I do keep a few other medications on hand. I have Fritz Quick Cure which if I recall correctly has formalin as it's ingredient as well as ruby reef rally which is mostly acriflavine with a small % formalin. Would you think a bath or QT with either of those would be something to try or wait and just do a formalin bath?

 

[Newms118]

1 month copper is neither enough nor effective. It also only treats ich and maybe velvet. Brooklynella, Uronema and plenty of others are completely unaffected. Even worse, they may actually profit from the cooper as that compromises the fish's immune system.

This looks a bit like Brooklynella, though some of the typical symptoms are missing.

Which was the last fish that was added and how is he doing?

I'm curious, how can you tell it looks like Brook?