OT anyone using microsoft vista???

I'm more of a PC person. I haven't seen anything in my experiences using vista that makes me want to use it, but I've been pretty happy with XP.

I've also had the same mac powerbook for about 6 years, and the thing is still relevant. I just upgraded it to a 250gb hard drive and 2gb of ram, then upgrade to leopard, and the thing still rocks. At the time i felt like $2000 was way too much for a laptop. But I've spent more on PC based systems over the same amount of time, because I can never get past 3 years of using one without degraded performance compelling me to upgrade it.

I wouldn't go with entirely one platform over the other, but having both is pretty nice ;)
 
I've got an HP laptop with Vista pre-installed that I've been using since march. TBH, I really haven't noticed any difference between using it and using XP. It's just as stable (or as stable as a microsoft product can be) as XP andeven has a few cool features I like. And as amazing as it sounds, multitasking IME is better and more stable with Vista over XP.

Two things I don't like about Vista: When IE eventually crashes on you, it tells you it's stopped working, closes the program, and conveniently re-opens IE, but it doesn't bother opening up the webpage you were just at. Gives you a nice false sense of actually doing something good for you and then just snickers at you and laughs in the corner. Other thing I don't like is that it's pretty bloated and uses more power than XP, price of advancement I guess...

If you do get a Vista computer, do yourself a favor and pair 4 gigs of RAM with it, you'll kick yourself if you dont
 
Heres something you need to know before buying any computer...

32bit operating system (IE: the standard ones installed on most prebuilt laptops) cannot handle more than 3 gigs of ram. It is a waste of money to get anything more then 3 on a 32bit operating system if you have no plans to upgrade to 64bit. And if you upgrade to 64bit, take caution as some (a minority but still...) programs will not work.

On topic with vista, its a great operating system that I have had no problems with. Granted, I am merely using it for daily student/teenager use but also for compiling code for my college major (computer science).

If you want to get a mac, you will pay for it but in the end, you're getting a decent machine with a decent OS. Both vista and mac will do what you want. In the end, what your looking for are as follows:

What makes or breaks a computer with the average consumer is how it feels to them. DO they like the sensitivty of the mouse buttons or the force required to type. Size, weight, heat, things like that. As long as you get a laptop with atleast 2 gigs of ram and 2.0 processor, you're going to get a good machine.
 
I HATE Vista with a passion! It hogs up a lot of memory compared to XP. And from my experience, it takes away many features and options that XP had. As in, it is more of an OS for a child; allows you to do less so you will not screw things up...

Microsoft needs to release a new OS, not that fake new vista, where the OS uses next to no memory and allows you to do whatever you please.

On another note, in the past few years, I've noticed more and more hardware items, plug and play devices and even software that "requires" extra junk software. You know what I mean? Instead of just printing papers, your printer requires you to have a fancy piece of software installed which further hogs memory!

Just my ranting...

Stick with XP IMO. And if your computer is getting quite slow and all, backup your most important files on a USB drive or disk, then take your computer to a repair shop and have them wipe the harddrive and reformat it. Updating all the drivers (unless you'd like to do this on your own). Remember, there should be NO reason why your computer doesn't work as fast as it used to if it's "empty"...

Steve
 
Helinski, you do know that you dont need any of that extra software right? You can literally just install the driver and be done with it. And mac is the same as vista in the sense that "allows you to do less so you will not screw things up...". This applies to both systems, if you know what you're doing, you can do whatever you want basically.
 
About the software, I frequently refuse to install it. However, even with the proper drivers installed, sometimes the thing doesn't work as it should...


My observation: In order to make computer usage more "friendly" and "easy," companies have packaged junk software with products, which are designed to work 24/7, hogging memory usage. I've only noticed this for the past 3 years or so...

So Mac also restricts what you can do along with Vista?

I'll continue to stick with the XP. I want to be able to tinker with every setting possible in order to have my computer run the way I want it to...

Steve
 
If only I had the savy and balls to build my own computer, I have ordered a computer from Soyata int he past and it was nice to custimize my own computer and programs installed, though I think the price is ridiculous for the slight bit of custimization you get to do.

On the vista topic, I am afraid to buy a new computer too because I like XP, and actually, on my XP, I have the setting so it looks like Win98... haha. I dont think its a fear of change, its just a pain in the A$$ to have to learn the new way of working things, and I agree, vista looks very childish IMO as well.. my mother bought a new computer a few months ago and when vista came up, its got ballons and your calender and a clock and its like its shoving everything in your face like your 3 and can't figure out how to open the application...

But I guess it does have its good things, though I haven't really played with it to figure it out
 
my laptop has vista installed 2gigs of memory integrated graphics running vista home premium and it runs just fine for the basic stuff. i got a great deal at circuit city laptop and a printer for about 650 after tax with 180 in rebates. Vista is a fine operating system if you are buying a new computer. The problem with Vista lied in when people were upgrading operating system on an older computer, the drivers of older hardware were not compatible on vista.

My PC on the other hand I tried to install Vista on and had nothing but problems with drivers. It was so bad I was forced to buy a new sound card because my old one just wouldn't work.

All in all vista is great on new computers.
Rob
 
ox, most of the time, no one runs the balloons or bubbles and the calendar is part of windows sidebar which i know most people disable. Once you disable most of the "showy" things that the store enables by default, vista is a good operating system. The only thing I have noticed that would prevent any regular user from like it is UAC, which can be disabled so there goes that problem.

And Helsinki, yes, the quote "i never have any problems with my mac" is because they've limited so much of what you can actually access if you don't know what you're doing.
 
Well thanks for clearing it up everybody. NOW I'M MORE CONFUSED THAN EVER. IE :confused: Ubuntu :confused: Vista :confused: 2GB , 4 GB :confused:

I think I may just need to dump some cash on an external HD and Reboot this old clunker and forge ahead with XP.

I had liked the romance of a laptop for surfing the web in different rooms of the house (RC in front of the tele, the wife would love that. "huh, what, no, yeah I was listening to you, the television, and reading posts at the same time". Riiiiiiiiight). Or being able to travel and watch movies etc. But alas, they don't have the battery life to do so. Now with the OS confusion, I'm disenchanted with a Laptop.

The only LEGITIMATE reason I have for getting a Laptop is that my job requires me to interpret some Xrays in the middle of the night. How nice to roll over and tap a button, vs getting out of bed and going downstairs into the office etc etc. But, In that situation I'm already P. O.'d at being woken up at all, and if the computers OS gives me grief, well.....lets just say, my rage management counsellor would be adding a few sessions on to my syllabus.
 
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