OT: Season MVP - Nash

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7255025#post7255025 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by turtlespd
Well suns are pretty sorry without Nash but Lakers are a damn good team. You cant say Kobe makes the lakers, they dont play hard for several reasons and if you ever played basketball or any team sport youll understand, the way he treats his team mates is not proffesional at all. I love watching the Lakers play when Kobe is on the bench. They look like the Lakers and not a team one a single identity.

UHM wait. Nash plays on Pheonix! oh man Steve your gonna get burned on that but i get your point.

Umm, Nash used to play for Dallas when they were a good team...................Now that he is gone, they are still a good team...............That's my point
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7255036#post7255036 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rtwodtwo99
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7254923#post7254923 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SteveOhh

Take Kobe from the Lakers & what do you have?????????


A TEAM? a real team.???

A real team?????......................Does not making the playoffs constitute a "real team?" Cuz the Lakers don't stand a chance w/o Kobe.......................I thought it was about winning it all, not making sure your teammates have the opportunity to miss thier shots..............

But a "real team?"..............Who's gonna be the leader??? Odom......IF he decides to show up that night?? Parker?? Anybody every heard of Smush before he was a Laker?? Vlade............Well we wont get into that cuz he ripped off the Lakers for a few million without ever stepping foot on the court??

So tell me who on that team, besides Kobe, is gonna lead it?? Better yet, who on that team has won a championship besides Kobe?? And how many rings does Nash have??? Keep your MVP.........I'm sure Kobe would rather have his rings!!!

Steve :D
 
turtlespd,

In case you were stating that Lakers are a good team without Kobe, think again. Lakers are worst team in the league without Kobe. If they lost him, they'd be a joke.
 
#24 is Kobes Highschool Jersey, wearing 00-or any number wont affect his game.

Why hes changing it who gives? That number isnt what made him a great basketball, numbers are to make Refs jobs easier.

Lakers without Kobe would,could have been the worst team in the L, how in the world is he not MVP!!!
 
Actually i do think Lakers are a great team without Kobe. As a team they do what they are told and been trying to learn the Triangle offense for some time. Yes it is difficult to learn a new offense. Keep in mind Kobe does not make players around him better. Greatness comes from players able to play above the rim and at the same time making players around them better. Kobe has fell short in that area. He plays for himself.

The Lakers are built like the old Bulls. The team is made to Kobe's and Phil jacksons needs. They want Kobe to be the man but also lead his team. He has been giving this opportunity and so far has fell short.

As for the statment about Kobe taken away from the Lakers what are you left with?

Well take any star from a team and what are you left with? Take Micheal Jordan from the bulls and what do you have?

Point is Nash makes his team better, Kobe hardly does that.

Votes are in, eveyone feels Nash has been a greater asset as a team member than Kobe, no argument there. Kobe is a better player than Nash, no argument there.
 
Are there no Lebron fans out there? 30 7 and 6, where would the Cavs be w/o him?!? Having the record they do w/o Larry Hughes, he should've been the MVP. Looking at the Suns, Lakers, and Cavs, the Cavs have the worst team w/o their star.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7255320#post7255320 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by My F1sh R D34D!
#24 is Kobes Highschool Jersey, wearing 00-or any number wont affect his game.

Why hes changing it who gives? That number isnt what made him a great basketball, numbers are to make Refs jobs easier.

Well the point is why is it neccesary to change his number after all these years and why 24? Just coincedence, who knows.

Lakers without Kobe would,could have been the worst team in the L, how in the world is he not MVP!!!

True, but add a diff star player and im sure they would of been in the playoffs also.
 
i was agreeing to the opost above that,but if you want an aguement here you go,
you said this "As for the statment about Kobe taken away from the Lakers what are you left with? Well take any star from a team and what are you left with? Take Micheal Jordan from the bulls and what do you have?"

this i have to say is that micheal won how many MVPs?(go look it up,theres 5 for the league, and all six NBA Finals MVP awards) and he is considered one of the best players in the League(comapred with kobe,wilt,larry,and in my opinion magic) so kobe is in the same situation,so why isnt he crowned MVP

there you go theres an arguement
 
As a player KObe is one of the best. I never said othewise but he hasnt proven any thing special when it comes to making his team play better that isnt him. I think they choose MVP according to how much you impact your team. I dont know about WILT , never watched him play or followed his history. If this was a best player in the league as a individual 81 points means a whole lot even against the Raptors but he was on a run against the MAvs also.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7255387#post7255387 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by turtlespd
True, but add a diff star player and im sure they would of been in the playoffs also.

If that was the case where is KG and AI?

Lakers=1 star player(KOBE)= in playoffs...

KG, AI both awesome star players not in playoffs:confused:

Kobe is that great! This is his time, his prime!!!

He should get the MVP:smokin: Nash can get props for bouncing the ball of his head in that all star game....

You guys looking at Kobe passes, something that is overlooked everygame all the time, check em out he can do em with his left too...;):lol:
 
Don't listen to Turtlespd. He admitted that he hates Kobe no matter if the Lakers go undefeated. Must hurt jumping off the bandwagon. hehe
 
A lot of people hate Kobe because of reasons outside of basketball....If that court case never happened every hater in this thread would be rooting him on right now....

Kobe= bets player in basketball hands down no contest and he should be MVP discussion closed...
 

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