kactusficus
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any news from this stunning tank?? Kinlayan, please keep us updated! 
Out of Africa (picture intensive)
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kinlayan
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Time for an update it is going to be lengthy so be warned 
, it has taken me sometime to do this as I have been dealing with quite a few issues lately and also I was travelling abroad for 3 weeks.
I have sad news and perhaps some good news in this update. First my beloved Clown Trigger finally passed away when I was overseas at around April 9 The trigger vanished into the rockwork and was never seen again, he/she was well over 20 years in age and closer to 25 in my estimation as the fish never grew an inch since I bought it and was full grown although slightly stunted at the time of me purchasing it.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42085951@N06/4050579619/" title="DSC_1904 by Kinlayan, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/4050579619_258d4a3348.jpg" width="500" height="335" alt="DSC_1904"></a>
The Clown Trigger was a gentle giant in my tank , he had gone through 4 different homes/aquariums that I know of before his last one, he had been going off his food for the last 2 years periodically and I suspected the end was coming, the side fins where bent and age was definitely showing in the fish but it never got any notable disease, I therefore suspect it died from the passage of time.
The Trigger was a large fish and as his body was never found it caused significant water issues my nitrates shot up from 5- 25 mg/l and I am still battling to get them back to around 5mg/l. I also lost one trachyphyllia coral and had another 2 bleached in this time, I am hopeful I can save them though.
, it has taken me sometime to do this as I have been dealing with quite a few issues lately and also I was travelling abroad for 3 weeks.I have sad news and perhaps some good news in this update. First my beloved Clown Trigger finally passed away when I was overseas at around April 9 The trigger vanished into the rockwork and was never seen again, he/she was well over 20 years in age and closer to 25 in my estimation as the fish never grew an inch since I bought it and was full grown although slightly stunted at the time of me purchasing it.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42085951@N06/4050579619/" title="DSC_1904 by Kinlayan, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/4050579619_258d4a3348.jpg" width="500" height="335" alt="DSC_1904"></a>
The Clown Trigger was a gentle giant in my tank , he had gone through 4 different homes/aquariums that I know of before his last one, he had been going off his food for the last 2 years periodically and I suspected the end was coming, the side fins where bent and age was definitely showing in the fish but it never got any notable disease, I therefore suspect it died from the passage of time.
The Trigger was a large fish and as his body was never found it caused significant water issues my nitrates shot up from 5- 25 mg/l and I am still battling to get them back to around 5mg/l. I also lost one trachyphyllia coral and had another 2 bleached in this time, I am hopeful I can save them though.
kinlayan
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The next sad news came sudden and far more tragic on 30 June 2011 I found my female Crosshatch trigger dead, she was fine the day before with no sign of disease, I removed her body and inspected it , I then saw movement in her left gill chamber- like something out of an alien horror movie this is what I discovered a large parasitic isopod (think its called cymothoa exigua) had taken over much of her left gill chamber- I am not sure if this is what lead to her death but it couldn't have been good to live with that compromising and feeding of your blood.
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kinlayan
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I can only hope and pray that there are no more of these horrors in my aquarium. On a lighter note even though I really can’t bear the thought of these creatures ,I found this video someone made about them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f9KlpvAfko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f9KlpvAfko
kinlayan
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Now for the next bit of what I hope will be some good news, I recently purchased a Conspiculatus angel, this together with my bandit are my all time favourite angels for many years! And i love Angelfish- they are full of personality and colour. This conspiculatus unfortunately was not an easy introduction for me, upon arrival it refused to eat any prepared food at all in quarantine and I tried almost everything even fresh oyster and mussel and every pellet and flake one can imagine. It was apparently eating mysis at the wholesaler but wouldn't even look at mysis from me. I examined it closely in Quarantine and the first poop it made(the next day after I bought it) was collected and examined it seemed the fish had been eating some sort of sponge in the wholesalers tank as the poop was mainly consisting of proper spongy material.
The only thing I was able to get it to eat while in Quarantine was Caulerpa from my tanks left compartment where i keep macroalgaes and Softies, it proved that the fish had an appetite but it would not eat anything meaty I offered at all and no nori or any seaweed that was processed. Its entire diet was only consisting of caulerpa and red bubble algae which it also seemed to find appetizing , at this point it was now at least 2 weeks and I could not get it to eat anything else, I was getting desperate. The red bubble algae though gave me a way to deworm the fish , I was able to pop the bubble and insert deworming powder into the bubble and this was swallowed, I also was able to put a small pellet food into the red bubble algae similar to Valonia the green type and this gave me some hope as it was allowing the fish to get in a little protein, I did not have a lot of this type of algae so I couldn't feed it often and used it only every 2-3 days. The fish was so very fussy with frozen foods as well it would eat nothing and i had a lot of fresh and good quality frozen foods, it wouldn't even look at the angel formulas or any of the food specifically made for these type of fish.
I could see that the fish was getting thinner and I was very concerned, I found some aiptasia in one of my quarantine tanks , and decided to see if it would eat that and sure enough it swallowed it with gusto, I also had some small Majanos not a lot but some that were growing on top of some green star polyps, I scraped them off and the fish also ate these with gusto, so far it seemed to only have an appetite for the pests of the aquarium world and usually many would be happy about this but I didn't have enough pests to sustain it long term and nor did I want to start culturing them just to feed this one fish.
I continued to try the other foods both frozen , pellets and flaked as well as nori but even after 3 weeks it was still only eating the following caulerpa, red bubble algae, aiptasia and Majanos and some tiny pieces of cut up bristleworm from my sand bed.
I went to local rockpools to try get ulva and other macroalgaes but the fish just spat these out , it only wanted tropical macroalgaes that were from my aquarium.
The Quarantine period was over and it still wasn't eating right but I thought it may improve if it got into the aquarium and now another hurdle had to be gotten over. My aquarium already has a number of large Angelfish and aggressive Tangs , the Conspiculatus Angel was not a small fish it was about 16 cm from head to tail just a bit bigger than may Majestic angel and smaller than my Blueface angel, however this is just the third Conspiculatus ever to be brought into South Africa so one can't be too picky here.
I use a large Perspex acclimation box which I further extended with eggcrate to make it bigger for the period of acclimation for this fish , it usually enables me to see aggression and monitor how the fish will behave, I introduced the fish and all seemed fine, little aggression was observed towards the Conspiculatus in the box.
On the second day of the fish's introduction, things went very bad, the fish was pale , listless and would now eat nothing at all, it even started to whirl in circles at this stage, I thought it would die and i was really upset , I didn't want to move the fish again as I was sure that any further stress would kill it. To be honest the only thing I could do was pray, yes I said "œpray" and that is what I did . I do believe in a God and more specifically the God of the bible (old and new testament) and I prayed to him to save the fish , I had done everything I was able to up until that point and was failing with this fish( Most of us Hobbyists are quite scientifically minded and this is usually not an option many Scientifically minded people jump too!)
By the afternoon the fish had stopped whirling and was behaving more normal, I thought the box might have caused problems and since my prayer seemed to have been answered, I thought it might be best to release it from the box while it was improving, no sooner had I released it and 4 of my fish started actively bullying the Conspiculatus, the Cowfish actually bit him above the eye, the Purple tang tried to cut him with his blades and the most aggression came from my Majestic and Blue face which launched at him with lightning speed in order to bite his fins.
At this point I was again fearing the worst that the fish would not survive this onslaught, they chased him back to the acclimation box and I quickly closed it up when he re-entered it. I now had my doubts whether I could introduce this fish successfully to an established Aquarium like mine.
I decided to divide my tank down the middle with eggcrate as I have a path in the rockwork , and to allow the Conspic to establish it's territory on one side, while I made sure the bullying fishes remained on the other side. On the third day the fish was hiding and lethargic and again, I feared it was over again I prayed. The fish appeared to improve the next day but I could now observe a significant outbreak of whitespot amongst my established fish and aggression developing amongst them due to the division of territories.
I slowly allowed the fish to mix by opening the eggcrate daily under supervised periods and observed the behavior of the fish aggression began to subside from most fish except the Majestic and Blueface who continued to harass and bully when they came in line of sight of the new fish. The fish had started to eat his usual fare Caulerpa and Red bubble algae but still would not accept any other food , I had now trained him to eat the Caulerpa from tweezers at the top of the tank , any other food though was rejected.
I furthered researched the databases on this fish and it seems their diet consists mainly of Macroalgae, sponges and tunicates in the wild. I had it eating fresh macroalgae, I also tried 3 different types of sponges that I could find but it showed no interest in eating them, I then endeavoured to try a local tunicate called red bait , which fishermen harvest here for bait but it didn't go for this either.
On further Research I came across the fact that Korean people eat a tunicate as Sushi which is commonly called Sea Pineapple -The sea pineapple (Halocynthia roretzi) is an edibleTunicate consumed primarily in Korea, where it is known as meongge (멍게), and to a lesser extent in Japan, where it is known as hoya (ホヤ?) or maboya (マボヤ?).(from Wikipedia)
A friend of mine is married to a Korean and I quickly asked him on Facebook if he knew if it was possible to get this anywhere in Cape Town, he promptly replied and told me to try a local Korean Store, upon phoning the Store, I found it difficult to explain what I wanted and my description of "œSea Pineapple" led them to think I was referring to Canned Pineapples for sauces "“ the language barrier was immense and I got the reply they didn't have what I wanted but I also had the feeling they didn't understand what I wanted. I drove to the store with my Girlfriend , this time I googled the Korean name for Sea pineapple and showed it to the lady who owned the store( she still didn't understand me and thought I wanted some sort of fish to eat).I tried to communicate that I wanted it as food for a special fish I had , but she didn't speak English well and my communication wasn't working although she lead me to a deep freeze and showed me a bag of chopped up red Sea Pineapple , she then indicated this was not good for me and that they use it to make Kimchi and tried to sell me some other Frozen fish , I was hitting a blank now, but my genius Girlfriend (who is an Artist)decided that drawing pictures would explain what , I wanted and for what reason- this succeeded and The lady sold me a kilo of frozen Sea Pineapple for a bargain price of 10 Dollars!
Back at home I now offered a small piece of this sea pineapple to the Conspic and it devoured it with Gusto!, I was very happy! I now began to soak various foods in the Sea pineapple juice and the fish started to eat them these included all the gel formula food and even some pellets! It still would not eat Mysis though so I don't know if it was ever eating that?
A week went by and aggression subsided as I allowed supervised periods of mingling between the fish but I knew I had to hurry as stress was building in the aquarium, whitespot was worsening with this added stress of the division and the disturbance of territories. After one week I removed all the divisions, the only fish still hassling the conspic was the Majestic but the aggression was subsiding.
The Conspic is now asserting itself and exploring the whole tank , it has put on weight and I am hoping it will overcome any whitespot with a combination of good nutrition, water quality, UV and ozone use.
This was by far my most challenging introduction to this aquarium to date, I am not saying all Conspiculatus angels are like this but this one was very difficult, it didn't want to adapt without major effort on my part, I hope it will just get healthier and live a long life like many of my other fish but as you know in this hobby only time will tell if I will succeed.( Scott W Michael portrays them as one of the most difficult Chaetodontoplus Angels and given my experience with this specific one I have to agree)
The only thing I was able to get it to eat while in Quarantine was Caulerpa from my tanks left compartment where i keep macroalgaes and Softies, it proved that the fish had an appetite but it would not eat anything meaty I offered at all and no nori or any seaweed that was processed. Its entire diet was only consisting of caulerpa and red bubble algae which it also seemed to find appetizing , at this point it was now at least 2 weeks and I could not get it to eat anything else, I was getting desperate. The red bubble algae though gave me a way to deworm the fish , I was able to pop the bubble and insert deworming powder into the bubble and this was swallowed, I also was able to put a small pellet food into the red bubble algae similar to Valonia the green type and this gave me some hope as it was allowing the fish to get in a little protein, I did not have a lot of this type of algae so I couldn't feed it often and used it only every 2-3 days. The fish was so very fussy with frozen foods as well it would eat nothing and i had a lot of fresh and good quality frozen foods, it wouldn't even look at the angel formulas or any of the food specifically made for these type of fish.
I could see that the fish was getting thinner and I was very concerned, I found some aiptasia in one of my quarantine tanks , and decided to see if it would eat that and sure enough it swallowed it with gusto, I also had some small Majanos not a lot but some that were growing on top of some green star polyps, I scraped them off and the fish also ate these with gusto, so far it seemed to only have an appetite for the pests of the aquarium world and usually many would be happy about this but I didn't have enough pests to sustain it long term and nor did I want to start culturing them just to feed this one fish.
I continued to try the other foods both frozen , pellets and flaked as well as nori but even after 3 weeks it was still only eating the following caulerpa, red bubble algae, aiptasia and Majanos and some tiny pieces of cut up bristleworm from my sand bed.
I went to local rockpools to try get ulva and other macroalgaes but the fish just spat these out , it only wanted tropical macroalgaes that were from my aquarium.
The Quarantine period was over and it still wasn't eating right but I thought it may improve if it got into the aquarium and now another hurdle had to be gotten over. My aquarium already has a number of large Angelfish and aggressive Tangs , the Conspiculatus Angel was not a small fish it was about 16 cm from head to tail just a bit bigger than may Majestic angel and smaller than my Blueface angel, however this is just the third Conspiculatus ever to be brought into South Africa so one can't be too picky here.
I use a large Perspex acclimation box which I further extended with eggcrate to make it bigger for the period of acclimation for this fish , it usually enables me to see aggression and monitor how the fish will behave, I introduced the fish and all seemed fine, little aggression was observed towards the Conspiculatus in the box.
On the second day of the fish's introduction, things went very bad, the fish was pale , listless and would now eat nothing at all, it even started to whirl in circles at this stage, I thought it would die and i was really upset , I didn't want to move the fish again as I was sure that any further stress would kill it. To be honest the only thing I could do was pray, yes I said "œpray" and that is what I did . I do believe in a God and more specifically the God of the bible (old and new testament) and I prayed to him to save the fish , I had done everything I was able to up until that point and was failing with this fish( Most of us Hobbyists are quite scientifically minded and this is usually not an option many Scientifically minded people jump too!)
By the afternoon the fish had stopped whirling and was behaving more normal, I thought the box might have caused problems and since my prayer seemed to have been answered, I thought it might be best to release it from the box while it was improving, no sooner had I released it and 4 of my fish started actively bullying the Conspiculatus, the Cowfish actually bit him above the eye, the Purple tang tried to cut him with his blades and the most aggression came from my Majestic and Blue face which launched at him with lightning speed in order to bite his fins.
At this point I was again fearing the worst that the fish would not survive this onslaught, they chased him back to the acclimation box and I quickly closed it up when he re-entered it. I now had my doubts whether I could introduce this fish successfully to an established Aquarium like mine.
I decided to divide my tank down the middle with eggcrate as I have a path in the rockwork , and to allow the Conspic to establish it's territory on one side, while I made sure the bullying fishes remained on the other side. On the third day the fish was hiding and lethargic and again, I feared it was over again I prayed. The fish appeared to improve the next day but I could now observe a significant outbreak of whitespot amongst my established fish and aggression developing amongst them due to the division of territories.
I slowly allowed the fish to mix by opening the eggcrate daily under supervised periods and observed the behavior of the fish aggression began to subside from most fish except the Majestic and Blueface who continued to harass and bully when they came in line of sight of the new fish. The fish had started to eat his usual fare Caulerpa and Red bubble algae but still would not accept any other food , I had now trained him to eat the Caulerpa from tweezers at the top of the tank , any other food though was rejected.
I furthered researched the databases on this fish and it seems their diet consists mainly of Macroalgae, sponges and tunicates in the wild. I had it eating fresh macroalgae, I also tried 3 different types of sponges that I could find but it showed no interest in eating them, I then endeavoured to try a local tunicate called red bait , which fishermen harvest here for bait but it didn't go for this either.
On further Research I came across the fact that Korean people eat a tunicate as Sushi which is commonly called Sea Pineapple -The sea pineapple (Halocynthia roretzi) is an edibleTunicate consumed primarily in Korea, where it is known as meongge (멍게), and to a lesser extent in Japan, where it is known as hoya (ホヤ?) or maboya (マボヤ?).(from Wikipedia)
A friend of mine is married to a Korean and I quickly asked him on Facebook if he knew if it was possible to get this anywhere in Cape Town, he promptly replied and told me to try a local Korean Store, upon phoning the Store, I found it difficult to explain what I wanted and my description of "œSea Pineapple" led them to think I was referring to Canned Pineapples for sauces "“ the language barrier was immense and I got the reply they didn't have what I wanted but I also had the feeling they didn't understand what I wanted. I drove to the store with my Girlfriend , this time I googled the Korean name for Sea pineapple and showed it to the lady who owned the store( she still didn't understand me and thought I wanted some sort of fish to eat).I tried to communicate that I wanted it as food for a special fish I had , but she didn't speak English well and my communication wasn't working although she lead me to a deep freeze and showed me a bag of chopped up red Sea Pineapple , she then indicated this was not good for me and that they use it to make Kimchi and tried to sell me some other Frozen fish , I was hitting a blank now, but my genius Girlfriend (who is an Artist)decided that drawing pictures would explain what , I wanted and for what reason- this succeeded and The lady sold me a kilo of frozen Sea Pineapple for a bargain price of 10 Dollars!
Back at home I now offered a small piece of this sea pineapple to the Conspic and it devoured it with Gusto!, I was very happy! I now began to soak various foods in the Sea pineapple juice and the fish started to eat them these included all the gel formula food and even some pellets! It still would not eat Mysis though so I don't know if it was ever eating that?
A week went by and aggression subsided as I allowed supervised periods of mingling between the fish but I knew I had to hurry as stress was building in the aquarium, whitespot was worsening with this added stress of the division and the disturbance of territories. After one week I removed all the divisions, the only fish still hassling the conspic was the Majestic but the aggression was subsiding.
The Conspic is now asserting itself and exploring the whole tank , it has put on weight and I am hoping it will overcome any whitespot with a combination of good nutrition, water quality, UV and ozone use.
This was by far my most challenging introduction to this aquarium to date, I am not saying all Conspiculatus angels are like this but this one was very difficult, it didn't want to adapt without major effort on my part, I hope it will just get healthier and live a long life like many of my other fish but as you know in this hobby only time will tell if I will succeed.( Scott W Michael portrays them as one of the most difficult Chaetodontoplus Angels and given my experience with this specific one I have to agree)
kinlayan
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<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42085951@N06/5896941720/" title="conspic 1 by Kinlayan, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6008/5896941720_dbf07650bd.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="conspic 1"></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42085951@N06/5896940464/" title="conspic 2 by Kinlayan, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5268/5896940464_0f2efa8fc7.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="conspic 2"></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42085951@N06/5896939048/" title="DSC_2042 by Kinlayan, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5305/5896939048_c82d885b01.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="DSC_2042"></a>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42085951@N06/5896940464/" title="conspic 2 by Kinlayan, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5268/5896940464_0f2efa8fc7.jpg" width="500" height="332" alt="conspic 2"></a>
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asaf hevroni
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Awesome design and planning Im realy ingoy to see it
bennyhanna1
New member
just popped in to check out your thread, sorry about your trigger! That picture and the thought of one of those creatures in a fish (or me, like aliens) makes me shudder!
prop-frags
SPS Slave
Kinlayan,
your love for your animals is so apparent in all your updates! It is no wonder you are able to keep them healthy for so long in captivity. I have so much respect for the attention you give - physicians and veterinarians should all be so caring!
That isopod was HORRIBLE! Even with the great husbandry you give, there are some things that cannot be controlled or avoided. Such is the way with nature. We are saddened about the loss of that beautiful trigger.
Your story of the acclimation for the new conspic is so inspiring! Even if we could learn to be half as dedicated and concerned for our animals as you are!! Thank you for being such a leader in our hobby. Please do keep the updates coming.
your love for your animals is so apparent in all your updates! It is no wonder you are able to keep them healthy for so long in captivity. I have so much respect for the attention you give - physicians and veterinarians should all be so caring!
That isopod was HORRIBLE! Even with the great husbandry you give, there are some things that cannot be controlled or avoided. Such is the way with nature. We are saddened about the loss of that beautiful trigger.
Your story of the acclimation for the new conspic is so inspiring! Even if we could learn to be half as dedicated and concerned for our animals as you are!! Thank you for being such a leader in our hobby. Please do keep the updates coming.
lebreef
New member
Sorry for your loss kinlayan... it must have been painful...
I would also like to thank you for the detailed and explicit description of the acclimation of your new conspicillatus. It has really been an interesting read, and I wish you the best of luck with your new addition.
I would also like to thank you for the detailed and explicit description of the acclimation of your new conspicillatus. It has really been an interesting read, and I wish you the best of luck with your new addition.
tahiriqbal
Sialkot
Beautiful and well thought setup Sir. Thanks for sharing this lovely tank and such great details on your stock and experience with the livestock. Wishing you all the best and hopefully everything go smooth for you.
Tahir
Tahir
kinlayan
New member
asaf hevroni- you are welcome glad you enjoyed it!
Bennyhanna1- classic avatar! thanks for reading, yes they are just like Aliens
prop-frags- thank you so much for the wonderful compliments, it is often from the forums that many of us get the encouragement to continue in this hobby! As you im sure know, it has great highs and lows!
Lebreef- thank you for the encouragement watching your build with interest too!
Tahiriqbal- Many thanks for the good wishes and compliments
Bennyhanna1- classic avatar! thanks for reading, yes they are just like Aliens
prop-frags- thank you so much for the wonderful compliments, it is often from the forums that many of us get the encouragement to continue in this hobby! As you im sure know, it has great highs and lows!
Lebreef- thank you for the encouragement watching your build with interest too!
Tahiriqbal- Many thanks for the good wishes and compliments
Bello
New member
Honestly, I'm not a big fan of the conspic...... but I'm in awe of your dedication!!
There's really no other way to put it, a lot of people would give up @ 25% of your efforts, let alone see it through. This truly is the way that all aquarists (myself included) ought to be.
Oh, and that's one ****** ugly isopod!!
There's really no other way to put it, a lot of people would give up @ 25% of your efforts, let alone see it through. This truly is the way that all aquarists (myself included) ought to be.
Oh, and that's one ****** ugly isopod!!
wow, just can't get over your unrelenting drive, knowledge and experience to save that angel, I'm sure it would have died in my hands
when you say white spot are you referring to ich? fyi, Richard Terrell of the Pittsburg Zoo Aquarium successfully treated an outbreak of Cryptocaryon in a clam exhibit without effecting the invertebrates using a gel food impregnated with Chloroquine phosphate
great story and thanks so much for sharing with us
when you say white spot are you referring to ich? fyi, Richard Terrell of the Pittsburg Zoo Aquarium successfully treated an outbreak of Cryptocaryon in a clam exhibit without effecting the invertebrates using a gel food impregnated with Chloroquine phosphate
great story and thanks so much for sharing with us
Allmost
New member
nice Excellent job with the angel !! dont you just love the feeling after wards ?
1 thing I find very interesting, is that you QT all fish, and yet, when stressed, the fish in your DT developed white spots, showing one can never get rid of it altogether, and it is always present, QT or not, and will only show when the fish is weak -[stressed, not fed well, ... ] would you agree to this statement ?
I really enjoy your fascination with the marine fish, and how detailed you are and how much you care ! I am the same way, 99% of fish that die in this hobby do so for "no apparent reason" according to the hobbyinst, which is wrong I think ... I like how you digged up to see why the cross hatch died. Question though, was it acting abnormal before ?
thank you for the amazing pics
1 thing I find very interesting, is that you QT all fish, and yet, when stressed, the fish in your DT developed white spots, showing one can never get rid of it altogether, and it is always present, QT or not, and will only show when the fish is weak -[stressed, not fed well, ... ] would you agree to this statement ?
I really enjoy your fascination with the marine fish, and how detailed you are and how much you care ! I am the same way, 99% of fish that die in this hobby do so for "no apparent reason" according to the hobbyinst, which is wrong I think ... I like how you digged up to see why the cross hatch died. Question though, was it acting abnormal before ?
thank you for the amazing pics
kinlayan
New member
Bello- thank you for your honest opinion, we all have favourite fish and to me the conspic is definitely one of my all time favourites, thank you for the compliments, i do believe one has to do the best for your fish if you taking them away from their natural enviroment.
Eliiot- thank you for the compliment, i cant take full credit for the fish surviving so far, i think i had Supernatural help with this one
Allmost - it is truly rewarding to succeed, with these delicate fish failure is often the case, in the instance where one actually succeeds it is most satisfying!
Whitespot is extremely difficult to prevent in aquariums with alot of fish and live rock/Corals it is likely to slip in even past stringent quarantine, it only takes one parasite to start the chain reaction, i usually try to keep its numbers low but if stress breaks out for any reason it usually flares up, if i can keep the population low through UV, ozone , micron filtration and boosting the immune systems, then i dont believe it will be fatal to the fish.
However if something goes wrong it is like a sword of Damocles hanging over the tank.
The crosshatch was 100% behaving normal with no scratching or any indication of that parasite ;(, its gill covers are really small and my cleaner shrimps obviously couldnt help because of this, i usually see them cleaning the gills of my larger angels but they can flare them open for the cleaners, a trigger cant do that.
Haab- thanks
Wuht- yes it is always helpful to find out what caused the deaths.
Eliiot- thank you for the compliment, i cant take full credit for the fish surviving so far, i think i had Supernatural help with this one
Allmost - it is truly rewarding to succeed, with these delicate fish failure is often the case, in the instance where one actually succeeds it is most satisfying!
Whitespot is extremely difficult to prevent in aquariums with alot of fish and live rock/Corals it is likely to slip in even past stringent quarantine, it only takes one parasite to start the chain reaction, i usually try to keep its numbers low but if stress breaks out for any reason it usually flares up, if i can keep the population low through UV, ozone , micron filtration and boosting the immune systems, then i dont believe it will be fatal to the fish.
However if something goes wrong it is like a sword of Damocles hanging over the tank.
The crosshatch was 100% behaving normal with no scratching or any indication of that parasite ;(, its gill covers are really small and my cleaner shrimps obviously couldnt help because of this, i usually see them cleaning the gills of my larger angels but they can flare them open for the cleaners, a trigger cant do that.
Haab- thanks
Wuht- yes it is always helpful to find out what caused the deaths.
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