Overflow drilling Options?

[Im Lon 2]

A. Would you have the tank built with the over flow box (normal)inside the tank where the hole is at the bottom of the tank, with the over flow box taking up room in the back of the tank?

B. Would you have the overflow box on the out side of the tank (like Fades) so again there is no over flow box taking up so much room in the tank?

C. Would have Holes drilled with Small overflow boxes across the top of the water line?

D. Would just have holes drilled across the top of the water line so you do not have a overflow box inside tank taking up so much room?

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Do you think one way would work better over the other? If so Please explain.

 

[DrBDC]

What tank are you doing this to?

 

[Im Lon 2]

StupidsReef and I were talking about this last night, for his new tank. (72x36x24)

We Plan on having at least 3 - 2", and 1 - 1" Drains. The 1" is for the Skimmer.

 

[Im Lon 2]

Aslo Note: the Return pump is probably going to be a Reeflo Barracuda

 

[capncapo]

Depends on how much room you have for external overflows. Needless to say, the less obtrusive the better but you have to have the extra space for external overflows.

If I didn't have the extra space I would make my overflow go all of the way across the top of the tank and make it only 4 inches high or so. That way you can drill as many holes for bulkheads as you may want/need,

Depending on how you will get your flow ( closed loop or powerheads inside the tank ) you may need that much of an overflow just to be able to drain the required amount of water for a closed loop.

 

[DrBDC]

I would do the "coast to coast", "Calfo", whatever you want to call it style with a 4-6" L shaped acrylic or glass overflow with as many holes as you want along that level. One good thing about that is since it's a diy drilling and overflow attachment, if the overflow seal isn't perfect, it won't drain the tank. Out the back is nice if it's made that way from the manufacturer and I "think" I'd trust that more on an acrylic tank since the bonded seam is "supposed" to be stronger than the acrylic itself. Not sure I believe that but that's what they say. Who are "they" btw?

I'd also drill a couple lower for closed loop intakes. Then just place bulkheads and just cap them off if not doing a closed loop. At least there is the option later and once you have the tank being drilled it's easier and it's impractical to really do it later. Might also be a better resale with those present at a later time if selling the tank.

 

[mpcart]

Did he get the tank? That's the size I was looking at.

Is he going to have the tank builder drill the holes and build the overflow?

-Mike

 

[Im Lon 2]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9383657#post9383657 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mpcart
Did he get the tank? That's the size I was looking at.

Is he going to have the tank builder drill the holes and build the overflow?

-Mike

He Plans on ordering the tank next Month. Yes he will have them Drill the holes and do the boxes, however he decides to have it done.

I do agree that since the tank is Glass not to do the overflow on the back.

Greg I like the idea of having the over flow box go across the back top of the tank. I just wish I could see a tank with this design before he orders something like this and does not like the look of it. Does anyone know where you can find any pics of a tank like this? Do you think it would block to much light on the back wall?

 

[DrBDC]

Here are some links I have:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=619976

http://forum.marinedepot.com/Topic26693-13-1.aspx

 

[latazyo]

A: that is standard procedure and would work fine, but you lose room

didnt you say his tank was going to be huge anyways, so maybe the overflow space lost wouldnt be an issue

B: IMO that would be ideal (is it going in wall or against a wall like Fade's or is it going to be a 4 side viewable island?)

C: not a bad idea would work just fine and give surface skimming area in more locations than idea A

D: terrible idea...the reason why is that the water will likely drain at the bottom of the hole, which will make your water level way too low and will look crappy when the tank is running

the overflow boxes defeat that problem by forcing the water to rise to the top

 

[StupidsReef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9384561#post9384561 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by latazyo
A: that is standard procedure and would work fine, but you lose room

didnt you say his tank was going to be huge anyways, so maybe the overflow space lost wouldnt be an issue

B: IMO that would be ideal (is it going in wall or against a wall like Fade's or is it going to be a 4 side viewable island?)

C: not a bad idea would work just fine and give surface skimming area in more locations than idea A

D: terrible idea...the reason why is that the water will likely drain at the bottom of the hole, which will make your water level way too low and will look crappy when the tank is running

the overflow boxes defeat that problem by forcing the water to rise to the top

Uh, Dude what are you talking about?? Or did you just want to babble aimlessly??

A) With the Cali over flow you gain room NOT lose it.

The tank is not really huge I've been forced to go with the 60x36x25 due to cash flow. And overflow loss IS an issue to me.

B)This tank will not be right up against the wall, However it will be a 3 side viewed tank. Behined it will be room for me to maintain and service it.

C) I agree with you here, as well as I don't lose flow in the center of the back area of the tank with the Cali overflow. Standard over flows are the hieght of the tank which JIMO causes water movement issues.

D)You missed something somewhere. Their is an overflow box with the Cali style. Here is a link to a pic of one: http://www.glasscages.com/?sAction=...trPictURL=include/OverflowsData/fig7a_big.jpg


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Originally posted by mpcart
Did he get the tank? That's the size I was looking at.

Is he going to have the tank builder drill the holes and build the overflow?

-Mike
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No Mike I have not bought it just yet. I'm odering it in April sometime around the second week. I had to down size from the 72x36x25 to the 60x36x25 due to cash flow and other things I want for this system. Yes I will have Glasscages drill the holes for the Califlow, However I will NOT have them build the overflow boxes. I have researched several threads (thank you Roy) on this and I can purchace from a contact I have here in the ST. Louis area the black plastic that they use as the cover with the teeth. I will purchace it thick enough to handle the amount of flow and build the overflow boxes out of it.

Greg I agree with your post 100%. That is exacting what I plan on doing with this tank. The only diffrenance is I will have 2 overflow boxes. I'm leaving an opening in the middle of the back of the tank for return pipe(s) back into the tank. If I feel comfortable with the holes drilled on the back pane and have no reall issue's like leaks ect. ect. then I may later on drill to holes for a closed loop system. Once I start this project I will take pics (with my crappy cam) from start to finish. I make it a thread. Thanks for every's input .

Stupid.

 

[latazyo]

lonnie didnt say anything about cali style anything

 

[Grace's Dad]

This post is only a day old and you're already downsizing? Why not wait for another paycheck and get the tank you really want. I just checked gc prices and it's a $175 difference.
Get on the Nook plan it isn't that bad- I just think of all the money I've saved in electricity bills

 

[Im Lon 2]

Re: Overflow drilling Options?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9384561#post9384561 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by latazyo
A: that is standard procedure and would work fine, but you lose room

didnt you say his tank was going to be huge anyways, so maybe the overflow space lost wouldnt be an issue

B: IMO that would be ideal (is it going in wall or against a wall like Fade's or is it going to be a 4 side viewable island?)

C: not a bad idea would work just fine and give surface skimming area in more locations than idea A

D: terrible idea...the reason why is that the water will likely drain at the bottom of the hole, which will make your water level way too low and will look crappy when the tank is running

the overflow boxes defeat that problem by forcing the water to rise to the top

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9392619#post9392619 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by StupidsReef
Uh, Dude what are you talking about?? Or did you just want to babble aimlessly??

He was answering this post in order I post them..
See now everyone knows why we call you stupid

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9383414#post9383414 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Im Lon 2
A. Would you have the tank built with the over flow box (normal)inside the tank where the hole is at the bottom of the tank, with the over flow box taking up room in the back of the tank?

B. Would you have the overflow box on the out side of the tank (like Fades) so again there is no over flow box taking up so much room in the tank?

C. Would have Holes drilled with Small overflow boxes across the top of the water line?

D. Would just have holes drilled across the top of the water line so you do not have a overflow box inside tank taking up so much room?

_________________________________________________

Do you think one way would work better over the other? If so Please explain.

 

[Im Lon 2]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9393362#post9393362 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Grace's Dad
This post is only a day old and you're already downsizing? Why not wait for another paycheck and get the tank you really want. I just checked gc prices and it's a $175 difference.
Get on the Nook plan it isn't that bad- I just think of all the money I've saved in electricity bills

It's not only a Money issue.. It is a space issue.. The tank will fit better. He will always wish he went with the bigger tank because I wish I would have kept my 240.. But I just didn't have the room to view it like I can now.

 

[StupidsReef]

Trust me, I've been back and fourth on the size, But the 280 just won't fit in the room properly and be accessible to maintain and service it. That and it would cover 1/2 of one of the windows no matter where I placed it. That and one other thing that doesn't help is it's $175 more for 40 gallons, when a 40 gallon tank is only $60.00?? Best deal for me is to settle with the 240 all around.


And Lonnie you SUCK.