Overflow for a 20L?

So the bulkhead is the same size as the drilled hole, which is bigger than the diameter of the plumbing...am I getting that right? Then what size bulkhead would I need for 1" plumbing? Can I use pvc for plumbing down to the tank, or does it have to be flexible piping?
 
Lets look at the obvious points... You always want the water to drain faster than you can put it back into the tank. This way, it flows over the "dam" and into the overflow box, and then thru the bulkhead and inevitably to the sump.

Your not actually "matching" any flow rate, your more or less, deciding that you first want.... say, 12 times an hour flow thru your ank... then, we take 20 gallons times 12, and say that your pump must delive 240 gallons of water, per hour to your tank.

Next, having a pump in a sump below your tank that pumps 240 gallons per hour, wont work for you... the weight of the water pumping up to the tank and the friction in the lines, pressure and many other factors exhibit whats called "head loss" thus, your pump will have a rating that states at 0 feet, or in a bucket, a pump will pump 500 gallons (for example). If we put a pipe on the pump that is 1' long, and pump water from a bucket to another bucket that is 1' higher, we only get 490 GPH. And so... at 2' may be 460 gallons, and 4 feet may be 390, and so on...

You need to decidd how high the pump will have to pump the water.

Not all pumps are created equally. some are more expensive, use less power, and are better built. you get (for the most part, ) what you pay for.


And... no, a 3/4" bulkhead means that it is threaded for 3/4" pipe, the hole might be 7/8" or 1" for example. but I say oversize. you want water to run out faster than it comes in... the reverse would be bad. So... if a 3/4" bulkhead is 5$ and a 1 and 1/4" bulkhead is 5.50$.... Why save 50 cents... buy the bigger drain... not only that... but the peace of mind that a snail wont clog your drain line is priceless.

Jason
 
Thanks for the help guys. I already tried searching but "overflow" came up with zero results, and "over flow" comes up with ten billion results, 99% of which deal with water circulation due to the word "flow". ;) So if I were to take you up on your offer, and you were to drill it for me, I would first need to have the bulkhead I will be using in hand so you could drill the hole to the correct size for the bulkhead...correct? And I already know about the head loss calculators and such. And marinedepot has a table for head loss for the pump I will be using so I'm set there. I just need to figure out the bulkhead/plumbing and gph flow of that combo.

Don't worry I will read that thread in depth when I get home, and try some other search terms. I just figured since you guys were talking me into drilled, I'd ask a couple easy questions to help me decide what I'm getting myself into. Ones that might literally take me hours to find by searching through hundreds of pages. :D
 
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I only have 2 bits, they ironically fit the bulkheads that you can get 2 blocks from my house at Fleet Farm. Cost: 5$.

Any other size, and you need to buy a bit as well.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9990053#post9990053 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by siropa
Where are the bulkheads located in FF?

Ditto. I checked last night and couldn't find any by the pvc.
 
In Appleton, they are in the back left corner of the store (when entering the front of the store). They are on the second or third shelf, kinda hard to find and they don't stock very many.
 
More than likely. The ones they carry are used for watering troughs (the infamous large poly Rubbermaids) and the like.
 
I must have just missed them then. I had asked over in plumbing, but got kinda a deer in headlights look when I said bulkheads.
 
Well Jason drilled my tank for me today and that went well. Thanks again Jason. :) Then I spent about an hour at home depot trying to rig up a durso since they didn't have all the pieces I needed. And I'm still missing one. Unless I want an internal overflow box that is 6" front to back (tank is only 12" front to back), I'll have to look elsewhere for a 90 degree threaded street elbow in 1.25". :rolleyes: Or pay $8 for one online! :mad2: I don't really feel like wasting a tank full of gas driving to every parts store in town. Anyone know of somewhere in town that has a better selection of pvc fittings than home depot?
 
I always find that neither menards or HD have all the parts I need and always have to go to both for any one project. i'd love to find that holy grail of pvc parts myself. I was searching for a flat bottom 3" pvc cap the other day for a skimmer and gave up after a few places. need a store that only sells pvc :)
 
Or online stores that don't charge $6 for "processing". :lol: Part was $1.60, shipping was 0.18 (that's right, eighteen cents), and "processing" was $5.75 at the place I found it online. But obviously somewhere in town would be preferable to online. :) Just imagine getting ebay prices in town! :D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9982428#post9982428 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hobbzz
If I were to go back on what I said earlier and drill it (not likely), is there anywhere in Green Bay/Fox Valley that sells acrylic (not plexiglass) and will also cut it to size? The only table saw I have access to does NOT cut straight. I found that out the hard way when making my canopy...:rolleyes:


Midland Plastics in Ashwaubenon sells all acrylics and weld-on. They have acrylic and weld-on in stock. They will also cut to size. Its located off the Oneida/Waube Ln. exit from Hwy. 41 right next to Woodworker's Depot. Just throwing this out there in case anyone here doesn't know where to get this stuff locally.
 
I'm contemplating another Custom Aquatic order next week. If you're not in a rush and are okay to wait for the part for a couple of weeks, I can't imagine it would be more than a dollar...plus they have lots of other good stuff. ;)
 
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