Ozonizer in SPS only tank

[Jar*Head]

I want to run Ozonizer in my 500g system. But don't know where to start. I know someone going to ask "what am i trying to achieve" . Here is my goal

water quality
kill unwanted bacteria or parasite
algea control
More light penatration

My tank is very stable, corals doing very well. But i would like to push for another 5-10% improvement.

I have a few question

1. Which Ozone generator should i get?

2. How hard is it to dial it in?

3. How many Mg should i get?

4. What negative affect should i expect?

5. Will Ozone kill pods?

6. Do you recommend to run with the protein skimmer or reactor?

7. What is the short/long term affect when running Ozone?

I have read all the articles about Ozone but i only understand half . Thank you for your time.

 

[Boomer]

1. Which Ozone generator should i get?

***I would get a Sanders

2. How hard is it to dial it in?

*** Easy as Sanders have a dial on them to control the output if that is what you mean. And NOT cranking it up high to achieve a desired ORP right away.

3. How many Mg should i get?


*** How many net gals. The std starting dosage is 0.3 - 0.5 mg / gal. If you had say 500 net gals then .3 or .5 x 500 gal. And don't let the ORP get above 450 mV.


4. What negative affect should i expect?

***None as long as you run the effluent water through GAC and the unit does not go bad. Using a dial controlled ozone unit and a controller should stop any of these concerns, other than the ozone air line coming off from you, the kids, dog, cat or poor connection etc., and giving everyone a headache and a odd odor in the air.

5. Will Ozone kill pods?

***No, it is not high enough to kill much of anything and the contact time is not long enough.

6. Do you recommend to run with the protein skimmer or reactor?

***It is better with a PROPER reactor but a PROPER skimmer is also fine.

7. What is the short/long term affect when running Ozone?

***Cleaner and clearer water, less organics, better and more light penetration and more normal REDOX levels, with almost tad increase in O2 maybe and increase in wanted bacteria and decrease in the unwanted algae ( usually) .

 

[Jar*Head]

Thank you Boomer, Where can i get the PROPER Ozone reactor? and thank you for taking your time answer all my question. I was going to buy the redsea. Because i heard it is very easy to use. I am a grunts, i need something with dummies proof

 

[Boomer]

Red Sea nahtah Often their ouput is lower than claimed. As far as a reactor goes nowdays there are only one or two. Here is the best one. The one with the Guage on it.

http://www.marinetechnical.com/

You may have to get a Red Sea though as they do have a nice unit that is a combo ozonizer controller all in one, plus a dryer. RS3675. It is a 200 mg unit which just barley meets your needs @400- 660 gals

http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium...lizers_ozonizers_red_sea_aquazone.asp?CartId=

 

[Boomer]

Red Sea nahtah Often their output is lower than claimed. As far as a reactor goes nowdays there are only one or two. Here is the best one.

The one with the Gauge on it.
http://www.marinetechnical.com/

You may have to get a Red Sea though as they do have a nice unit that is a combo ozonizer controller all in one, plus a dryer. RS3675. It is a 200 mg unit which just barley meets your needs @400- 660 gals

http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium...lizers_ozonizers_red_sea_aquazone.asp?CartId=

 

[Jar*Head]

Thank you Boomer, I have seen the Sanders and Ozonetech. But which one is easier to control? I heard the red sea suks. What about the delux model? Have you ever use their product? The MTC reactor look sweet. What is the SR7?

 

[KenStanley]

I have a Red Sea and have found it to be pretty much fool proof. I have the AquaZone plus 50 on my 100 gallon tank. The water began to sparkle within 24 hours of hooking it up. I've noticed that the orp probe gets dirty and the opr reading will read high untill you clean it. I consider that to be a good thing, much better than reading too low. As it is it will read high and just not produce ozone until you clean the orp probe. I like it a lot. Red Sea recommends ozone production of 5 to 15 mg/hr per 25 gallons of aquarium. If Boomer is correct on the over stating you may want to consider that when purchasing your unit.

 

[Jar*Head]

My friend also own the redsea delux and he is very happy with it. I will go with the Ozonetech and MTC reactor.

Boomer, thank you for guiding me into an expensive direction hahahaha J/K. Man that reactor look awesome. I will go ahead and order that bad boy next week.

How many Mg should i start in my 500g system? I like to take it slow..... 50mg?

Thanks

 

[Boomer]

Reef

Ozonetech is a very good choice but has no controller like the Red Sea. It is gambling to run ozone with no controller but there are other controllers to look at. It is just that the Red Sea has all in one and a air dryer and why I said that may be a better choice for you.



Recommended dosage is .3 - .5 mg / gal, which is almost the same as 5 to 15 mg/hr per 25 gallons or .2 - .6 mg / gal Start with .1 mg / gal. Take you NET gals, to include the sump and X x .3 or .5 mg / gal. If you have 400 gal then 400 x .3 or .5 = 120 -200 is where to set the dial on the ozonizer. DIAL not the digital read out, which is measuring ORP in mV. But for starts 400 x .1 = about 40 - 50 on the dial.

Also reef it will take time to break in the ORP probe, so if it reads low DO NOT be cranking it up, wait 1-2 wks for a good reading.


What is the SR7?

It is a Substrate Reactor that collects water and allows the water to run through GAC. about $120

Ken

The high heading is usually due to algae on the probe which releases a lot of O2 which raises the ORP.

AND your e-mail address does not work, so I no longer have it.

 

[Jar*Head]

Boomer, thank you for taking your time explainning. I already contact MTC regarding to the reactor, SR7 and CAF. I am going to order the complete setup next week

I was going to run the Ozonetech with the AC2 or AC3 controller. I did my research and lots of people say negative thing about redsea. Which Ozone Generator did you use?

 

[Jar*Head]

How about Redsea 200mg deluxe with 2x250 air dryer, running off the MTC ozone reactor?

 

[Boomer]

I did my research and lots of people say negative thing about redsea

I agree, see my first post I was just trying to make things easier for you.

How about Redsea 200mg deluxe with 2x250 air dryer, running off the MTC ozone reactor?

That was the one I thought would be OK. However, I would much rather see you with a Sanders or Ozonetech and a controller of your choice. The Ozonetech and their controller is a better unit than the Red Sea. I was just trying to save you some money

I used Sanders, as that was all there was in the dinosaur days They still make great units.

 

[Jar*Head]

I thought Sanders is out of business

 

[Boomer]

Not even


http://www.google.com/search?source...8&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS220US220&q=sanders+ozonizer

 

[Jar*Head]

Boomer, check it out and let me know what you think. I know it is hella expensive. But i rather be safe than sorry

http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=33_210&products_id=96

Dryer
http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=206

And this controller
http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=49_106_109&products_id=540

And MTC PRO240D reactor, SR7 and CAF

If this is not good enough, i will not run Ozone. I know it is a little crazy for me to spent all that money. But i want to minimize the error.

 

[Billybeau1]

Reef, you don't need to spend that much.

First, forget the air dryer. PITA.

You have a lot of water volume. Get a good 200 mg/hr unit (like a Sanders) and a good controller, (Milwaukee) or similar and you should be OK. Follow all the safety recommendations with carbon and ozone safe tubing.

It'll take you a little while to get stabilized (with that volume of water) but you will get there.

I do not recommend the Red Sea Units. Sorry, been there.

 

[Jar*Head]

I am glad i didn't buy the Redsea . But will look into the Sanders. How hard is it to find it in U.S? So you don't recommend the Ozone reactor? I was going to injected into my BK400ext but after i read all 3 articles. I change my mind . I thought the ozonetech air dryer is electronic, you don't have to bake it?

 

[Billybeau1]

It's not that I don't recommend an ozone reactor. It's just I haven't seen one yet worth the money. That doesn,t mean there isn't one out there. Most people do just fine running it through their protein skimmer.
(In fact, in many cases, it improves the performance of the ps. ) You obviously have plenty of space so you have many options.

The electronic air dryer may very well be good, I just haven't tried it.

The thing about air dryers is it will greatly increase your ozone production. (Not so much increase, but allow your generator to produce closer to the actual volume it is rated at. On a humid day, ozone generation (without a dryer, can be cut in half.

Just google ozonizers and you will find many selling Sanders.

 

[Jar*Head]

Billy, i found Sanders 200Mg Ozone generator for $278. I will go for that one. I will learn a little bit more about the electronic air dryer before jump into it.

I will let you know how well it work

 

[Billybeau1]

Alrighty then. Don't forget to run the exiting water through or over carbon so no ozone gets back to the tank. I cooked a fishes gills once from trying to go too fast too quick.

Did you decide on a controller yet ?