Pairing Clownfish

is it possible for a GSM & WSM to coexist in the same tank without ever pairing up? my female GSM is still bothering my WSM, its getting better but still only allows him in the top corners of the tank. Will she ever give in or will this behavior continue out for the rest of their days, or am I just a little impatient?
Thanks
 
ezhoops said:
is it possible for a GSM & WSM to coexist in the same tank without ever pairing up? my female GSM is still bothering my WSM, its getting better but still only allows him in the top corners of the tank. Will she ever give in or will this behavior continue out for the rest of their days, or am I just a little impatient?
Thanks
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Considering how long you have been at this, I would say the female has rejected your choice of a mate for her. I would try with another very small CB juvenile from a community tank.
 
Just wondering why my tomatoe clown prefers sleeping next to the water return rather than in the BTA? Actually it never even goes in the BTA, and not just this one, I got this one to replace (traded out) the first one that the clown would not go in.
 
JHardman,
it has been exactly 9 days since they have been in the same tank together. What do ya think? give up or wait a little longer?
 
Also, I have not seen the male quiver once, I guess I am just not willing to give up. But perhaps I should.
 
IF I recall you said that ORA usually has small 1" GSM and that my LFS should be able to get them for me?

Thanks again, hopefully this one will work out better than the last. IT is gonna break my students hearts to remove one of their "little friends". try try and try again.
 
Here's my situation. I have a small Clarkii (1.5") in a 10 gallon nano, and I've had it for about 6-8 months. At this point I'm assuming its changed to female. I think originally it was in a tank with a half a dozen others all of the same size. Would the best way to attempt to pair this fish be to get another small one, and hope that it has not established any sex yet, or at least not female?

For clarification I'm going to introduce both into my 65g at the same time.

Also, this may be off topic, but I'd like to get the pair to host in an anemone eventually, but I don't have one yet. Would either fish being tank raised make a difference for this possibility?
 
mikestod said:
Here's my situation. I have a small Clarkii (1.5") in a 10 gallon nano, and I've had it for about 6-8 months. At this point I'm assuming its changed to female. I think originally it was in a tank with a half a dozen others all of the same size. Would the best way to attempt to pair this fish be to get another small one, and hope that it has not established any sex yet, or at least not female?

For clarification I'm going to introduce both into my 65g at the same time.

Also, this may be off topic, but I'd like to get the pair to host in an anemone eventually, but I don't have one yet. Would either fish being tank raised make a difference for this possibility?
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Here is what I would do...

When you are ready move the existing A. clarkii to the new tank. Move the fish then wait 2-4 weeks for the fish to get comfortable and claim her territory. Then introduce a small juvenile from a community tank. They should pair up pretty fast this way.

Adding both at the same time to a new tank may not work as well. One of the things you want to happen is for the larger, female in this case, to focus her attention completely on the new fish. If you add both at the same time, this will not be the case, she will be trying to adjust to the sudden change in her world and the new fish might well become a secondary concern.

Yes hosting is off topic for this thread. Checkout the anemone FAQ and do a little searching in this forum. The question is asked and answered regularly.
 
Alright last question regarding my GSM & WSM pairing. They peacefully live together in my 29 Gal. Will they possibly pair up? as I said the male does not show submissive behavior, the female doesn't really mind him but doesn't let him too close to "her" territory. My goal is to have a pair, if this will never happen with these two fish I will move on. Could they live together without pairing up?
Please Advise
 
ezhoops said:
Alright last question regarding my GSM & WSM pairing. They peacefully live together in my 29 Gal. Will they possibly pair up? as I said the male does not show submissive behavior, the female doesn't really mind him but doesn't let him too close to "her" territory. My goal is to have a pair, if this will never happen with these two fish I will move on. Could they live together without pairing up?
Please Advise
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If they haven't paired up yet, then they will likely never will. Most unsuccessful pairings between maroons are the result of not having a large enough size difference between the two fish.

No they will likely not live peacefully together. Sooner or later the new fish will grow, become female and now you have two females in a small tank which is a formula for disaster.
 
Back to square one, just for the record even when you do get a "male" to get along with a female they don't always pair up.

Now to find a new male, LFS just got a new shipment from ORA, hope their tiny GSM's.
Thanks again
 
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Yesterday I found a tomato clown at my LFS that was around 5 in long. She's huge. I was told she came from Malaysia. She looked really healthy so I brought her home. The LFS told me that she would not be compatible with my original tomato clown (about 2 in long). The larger clown is bright neon orange and the other is bright red. (See pic)

I put the new on in the tank and nothing happened, except for a little checking each other out. The smaller on swam up to the new large clown 3-5 times and kind of turned a little sideways and then would swim around it. No aggressive behavior from either. The old clown likes to hang out up in the top corner of the tank near the sump return. It looked like it was trying to show the new clown where it lived for a while. The new clown finally found a place it liked and stays there about half the time. The other half it's swimming around the tank.

Does this sound like they might pair up under the right conditions? They are supposed to be from two different parts of the world.

Also would removing a little damsel be good to limit distractions for them in the tank?
 
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MPA said:
Does this sound like they might pair up under the right conditions? They are supposed to be from two different parts of the world.

Also would removing a little damsel be good to limit distractions for them in the tank?
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Well not only are they from different parts of the world, they are different species of clownfish. The smaller red'ish fish is a A. frenatus aka tomato and the larger orange'sih colored fish is an A. melanopus aka cinnamon.

So they may or may not pair up. Mixed species pairings are unique and sometimes pairing happens right off the bat, sometimes you will never get a pair from them. From your description you are fighting an up hill battle with these two.

Your best bet would be to not try to form a mixed species pairing.

Yes, it is always good to get rid of the nasty little damsels. ;)
 
Thanks Jhardman.

I've been following this post for a while, but didn't see any mention of corals in the tank.

It's 38gl w/ 96w 10 k PC, 96 w acintic, 175w 10 k mh. I'm gonna take the damsel and tomatoe out and get a cinnamon to try to make a pair. Would I have a better chance of them laying eggs w/o stuff like xenia, frogsapwn, or acro's in the tank?
 
hey jhardman,

I was talking with a friend of mine that bought this same fish from another local LFS, he said that this orange clown is a "malaysian tomatoe clown" and that it can be distinguished from a cinnamon clown by it's larger adult size, yellow tail, and all black fins.

what do you think???
This sounds correct, but .....
 
MPA said:
hey jhardman,

I was talking with a friend of mine that bought this same fish from another local LFS, he said that this orange clown is a "malaysian tomatoe clown" and that it can be distinguished from a cinnamon clown by it's larger adult size, yellow tail, and all black fins.

what do you think???
This sounds correct, but .....
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Nope, the Malaysian variant is well documented is quite red, not orange. Check out this link, http://wish.wodonga.tafe.edu.au/~kwaldon/fren.htm Kylie lists the Malaysian variant as #069

Then compare your fish to this link... http://wish.wodonga.tafe.edu.au/~kwaldon/mela.htm

I have no doubt that you have a cinnamon there.
 
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