pappone and BLU Coral method
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glassbox-design
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I dont know if I'd say sugar is the active ingredient. IMO it's the blend of seafood. The amount of sugar added is very minimal. Does it feed the bacs, of course. And this in turn helps lower no3 and po4....but the system works because it is a nutrient/food spike. The corals rapidly absorb this. Even more so because of the AA's dosed prior which elicit PE. You could do the same thing with different enzymes to get better PE...
This system addresses problems associated with "nitrogen limitation"... With the food being the limiting factor, hindering growth....when the seafood slush is added food is no longer limiting which is why you hear of the increase in growth.
Does sugar help, yes. But if you have a filtration system and a low nutrient system its addition would go unoticed.
With that said, I dose a C source daily
eric
This system addresses problems associated with "nitrogen limitation"... With the food being the limiting factor, hindering growth....when the seafood slush is added food is no longer limiting which is why you hear of the increase in growth.
Does sugar help, yes. But if you have a filtration system and a low nutrient system its addition would go unoticed.
With that said, I dose a C source daily
eric
skippyreef
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used the zeo amino's and found that they support brown algea growth. have been using SC without this issue
rigleautomotive
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does this method cause acros to brown ever from the nutrient load increase.seems like when i feed my corals they grow fast but they loose the bright colors after some time.
glassbox-design
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if your corals brown out, its causing your nutrients to go up long term...up the waterchanges and and you should be good.
A big skimmer always helps
eric
A big skimmer always helps
eric
fishfanatic06
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I started this stuff last week and I will use it forever. My corals have never looked so well. The polyp extension, color, and growth in my sps has already made a noticeable improvement. It seems like a lot of people have lack of polyp extension during night. This is actually when I saw the most. I use Reef Plus for my aminos. I dose them an hour prior to the pappone feeding.
messy1messmer
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can you dose a DT's like product on different days or is that not suggested
Green Thumb
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9654467#post9654467 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Flint&Eric
I dont know if I'd say sugar is the active ingredient. IMO it's the blend of seafood. The amount of sugar added is very minimal. Does it feed the bacs, of course. And this in turn helps lower no3 and po4....but the system works because it is a nutrient/food spike. The corals rapidly absorb this. Even more so because of the AA's dosed prior which elicit PE. You could do the same thing with different enzymes to get better PE...
This system addresses problems associated with "nitrogen limitation"... With the food being the limiting factor, hindering growth....when the seafood slush is added food is no longer limiting which is why you hear of the increase in growth.
Does sugar help, yes. But if you have a filtration system and a low nutrient system its addition would go unoticed.
With that said, I dose a C source daily
eric
Just currious, how much of a C source do you add daily? Also what is your waer volume? Are you using ZEO? Do you put sugar in the pappone as well?
Thanks
I don't think I'd dose anything else to my reef. This recipe should cover everything that needs feeding. Being as you do need to walk a tightrope and not overdose enough to cause nuisance algae but enough to let this stuff work it's magic. I think I'd just stick to this pappone.
Yes, in the posted recipe for BluCoral feeding sugar is in the list of ingredients.
Yes, in the posted recipe for BluCoral feeding sugar is in the list of ingredients.
fishfanatic06
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I dose Dt's phyto daily. Are you saying i should discontinue the use of them?
I have several questions:
1. How is the pappone much different from Borneman's method of feeding SPS http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=176530
Borneman doesn't appear to use sugar...which I guess in the pappone helps reduce nitrate and phosphate. Otherthan that they seem very similar.
2. What is the purpose of sugar?
3. Do you feed fish separately or do they eat the pappone?
1. How is the pappone much different from Borneman's method of feeding SPS http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=176530
Borneman doesn't appear to use sugar...which I guess in the pappone helps reduce nitrate and phosphate. Otherthan that they seem very similar.
2. What is the purpose of sugar?
3. Do you feed fish separately or do they eat the pappone?
glassbox-design
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marsh- the recipe's are very very simmilar, the difference being the particle size. with pappone is should be finely blended like a moush, with no chunks. this is better absorbed by corals etc...
the sugar addresses carbon limitation. it feeds bacs which in turn help keep the po4 and no3 down from the nutrient surge of the pappone. you feed the fish separately. this is done at night and for the corals
Green Thumb- I dose this on a couple tanks. It's my own C source and I use .10ml/10gallons. I do not use zeo, but do add bac additions every now and then to keep the populations where they need to be. I on days that I add pappone I cut back by C dosing.
I cant wait to see more of the zeo guys taking advantage of pappone less the sugar. The color manipulation and nutrient reduction of zeo combined with the nutrient surge and growth of blu coral should be great. I realize that the params arent matched the same, but with a constant stream of cal & alk, as long as it is not limiting...growth should still be much improved. It should help fight the overly pastel look of some zeo tanks....
eric
the sugar addresses carbon limitation. it feeds bacs which in turn help keep the po4 and no3 down from the nutrient surge of the pappone. you feed the fish separately. this is done at night and for the corals
Green Thumb- I dose this on a couple tanks. It's my own C source and I use .10ml/10gallons. I do not use zeo, but do add bac additions every now and then to keep the populations where they need to be. I on days that I add pappone I cut back by C dosing.
I cant wait to see more of the zeo guys taking advantage of pappone less the sugar. The color manipulation and nutrient reduction of zeo combined with the nutrient surge and growth of blu coral should be great. I realize that the params arent matched the same, but with a constant stream of cal & alk, as long as it is not limiting...growth should still be much improved. It should help fight the overly pastel look of some zeo tanks....
eric
