pappone and BLU Coral method

[Saldarya]

For those of you using the SeaChem AA, how much are you dosing prior to adding the food? How much per say 100G.

 

[geoxman]

I use OJ instead of RO.

 

[fishfanatic06]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9666629#post9666629 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Saldarya
For those of you using the SeaChem AA, how much are you dosing prior to adding the food? How much per say 100G.

Assuming you are using Seachem's Reefplus, I do the reccomended dosage on the bottle. 1 capful per 20 gallons of water before the pappone. So 5 capfuls should be that. Just double check the reccomended dosage on the bottle in case I am wrong.

 

[fishfanatic06]

I found a clever way for freezing the pappone. I remembered that when I would get injured during running I put water in dixie cups and would freeze it. When it was frozen, I then would rip the paper off that was attached to the ice and it would come off like butter. It made icing sore tendons and muscles a breeze. I thought that it would work similarly if I put 10ml of pappone in each dixie cup and freezed it. I tried it out and it worked great. I ripped the dixie cup apart and had perfect circles. Than I could cut them accordingly based on how much I needed to dose. I would then put all the cut up pieces into ziplock bags and leave it in the freezer.
BTW, I used the really small minaiture shot size dixie cups.

 

[SueT]

like jello shot size?? J/K....lol.

 

[fishfanatic06]

lol:lol:

 

[REEF-DADDY]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9661987#post9661987 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GraviT
I used a small amount of Pappone once a week for 3 weeks and ended up with a lovely mat of cyano and dino on my sandbed. No more for me.

I used the SeaChem Reef Plus for an AA suppliment, but had been using it for almost a month before I started the pappone. I'm not sure where the heck the dino came from, maybe it was in the gut of some of the seafood.

You could farm cyano with this stuff!

 

[SueT]

thats interesting as I have had nothing but the clearest tank water I've ever had before. My tank looks like a tank with no water and corals sitting on rock. It's that clear.

 

[fishfanatic06]

I agree, my water has only gotten clearer. I think you must have pretty decent protein skimming when using this stuff. The skimming removes all of the left over pappone so cyano and algae are not a huge problem.

 

[JRod]

Are both of you following suit with turning off the skimmer and starting in the am?

Have the AA on order and as soon as that walks through the door, its off to the fish market I go.

 

[SueT]

Yeah, I take my collection cup off right before I add the pappone. I do not turn the skimmer off, it's left running so oxygenation to the tank still is going. Then first thing the next morning while coffee is brewing I replace the cup.

 

[docwells]

I do not remove my skimmer cup. I just turn the water level down to the lowest setting and the skimmer does not collect any skimate. I have not gottten an algae bloom and I probably feed a little more pappone than needed for my tank. I also run oxzone on my tank and this probably helps. Is there anyone else running ozone with this method? I wonder if any of the reefers in Italy are using ozone with this method?

 

[Orochimaru]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9674359#post9674359 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by docwells
I do not remove my skimmer cup. I just turn the water level down to the lowest setting and the skimmer does not collect any skimate. I have not gottten an algae bloom and I probably feed a little more pappone than needed for my tank. I also run oxzone on my tank and this probably helps. Is there anyone else running ozone with this method? I wonder if any of the reefers in Italy are using ozone with this method?

i've tried lowering my water to the lowest level and this stuff still drives my skimmer crazy. So I took a styrafoam cup, cut out the bottom and flip upside down on the skimmate output in the collection cup, and basically increase the height of the skimmer. That seems to help cause I am too lazy to take out the cup...no space and too much hassle to.

I do use ozone so I would like to know as well.

 

[fishfanatic06]

I turn off my skimmer for the night. I already have a ton of oxygenation from my overflow into the sump.

 

[bogg]

I've been doing the same as you ff, and I also put a powerhead in the sump to circulate the pappone while it's down there. Otherwise it seems to settle on the top. I am assuming these dark rich colors I am having are due to the feedings I really like it!. No more really light pastel colors.

 

[fishfanatic06]

Yeah, I like dark, rich colors in my sps over pastel. I use to use prodibio and the sps were way too light. Not my taste. Switched to this stuff and the colors are just how I like them to be
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[bogg]

Yeah for the first time in a long time, I feel my current colors are closer to natural. Looks like pappone works great. I used to feed blended oysters but never had a great impact like I am now with this stuff. Thanks to the Italians.

 

[rawbomb]

i am using the seachem aminos and i had polyp retraction on all my sps instead of extension. Anyone have had this happen with the seachem? the amount is high since its 5ml per 20 and i have a 250 so it might have been to much.

 

[SueT]

Wow, I've never had that happen. I use the dosage on the bottle which is what your doing so thats weird to me. You do refrigerate the bottle after opening right??

 

[Green Thumb]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9661155#post9661155 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Flint&Eric
my c source is a little bit of this, and a little bit of that i'm still experimenting. The main sources are vodka, sugar, and vinegar and i've been adding some other sources and watching thier effect. I'd suggest start2. It's a great mixed c source and what I use to compare/contrast.

My next batch of pappone I will try adding fish roe and creatine to the blend. It's going to be a while as I have plenty still in my freezer

AA's can help darken colors, but honestly it seems they're most useful for one thing...increasing PE. I add an amino blend every now and then, but primarily only add them with pappone.

Try it out and see if you notice any differences. On my new set up I want to try doing a low dose amino solution with my top off unit so there is a constant supply. If for anything to get some nice PE 24/7.

Anyone try the new KZ snow product? I want to see if it lives up the claims people are making. It would be a great additiong to the BC method, if it truly does allow better abosrbtion of elements to the coral. With the pappone it could have some great results!

eric

Thanks for your responce. Ive never heard of start2. Who makes it?

Ill be honest, Im more inclined to using sugar for its availability

I do want to look into the start2 though..

A few years ago I had a source for FRESH off the boat shrimp,I used to squish the fresh shrimp eggs into the tank, fish went CRAZY and corals showed great PE during feeding. I would think fish roe is a VERY good idea...