PC vs. T-5's

That was so good why don't you come on over and build my canopy and install some lighting in it, I'll supply the parts of course.
 
Nice numbers, Travis. :) And, btw, one note. I specifically bought the reflectors I linked above from Reefgeek, rather then AquaLuxLighting as they are skinnier.

   AquaLux = 3 inches wide
   ReefGeek = 2 inches wide

I'd say the AquaLux reflectors themselves are good enough. But if you want to cram more in less space, the skinner ones are better.

Just in case anyone was wondering why I paid 2x as much for my reflectors... :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7435720#post7435720 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Snprhed
That was so good why don't you come on over and build my canopy and install some lighting in it, I'll supply the parts of course.

Pay for his gas and buy him a pizza and he probably will. :)

Actually, I was going to say, Snprhed, that when you get your canopy lighting plans going, make sure to post details in case we can save you any extra effort, etc.

One thing I did that was really cool was to get some Molex connectors and actually soder (sp?) in connectors in between the canopy top with the endcaps screwed on and then ballasts, so I could easily unhook them later. But that's just cause I'm crazy. :)

If you want to know more, I can provide details. It was a pain to get it all figured out.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7435801#post7435801 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by captbunzo
Pay for his gas and buy him a pizza and he probably will. :)

That's just a bonus, but the gas money would be a huge help :lmao:
 
how bout these...

how bout these...

Okay, so far I'm all hyped up over the T-5 craze!! :)
What about the T-5 bulbs with built in 180 reflectors? comments...opinions....?
 
I'ver never seen T5s with built-in reflectors. I'd say that while it'd be better then no reflectors, I would guess that they wouldn't be near as good as with parabolic reflectors.

Do you have a link to T5s with builtin reflectors?
 
180Ã"šÃ‚º Reflectors aren't much better than no reflector at all. That is if it is semi-circular reflector. Geometrically, light bounces off at an angle that it hits. For example, if a light beam hits a mirror at 60Ã"šÃ‚º, it will bounce back off at 60Ã"šÃ‚º. Therefore, you have 180Ã"šÃ‚º of angles, then it will spread it back out 180Ã"šÃ‚º. It will help put more light going downward, true, but the unique shape of the Parabolic Reflector actually focuses the light instead of just letting it bounce back out sporadically.
 
WRONG! T-5's do not last 12 months, their spectrum goes out in about 6 months making the cost more. secondly, regardless of the maturity of the technology, t-5's are not better than pc's. the scotopic lumens makes it appear brighter, but in effectiveness, pc's are better. dispute it all you want, t-5's lose their spectrum in 6 months. feel free to post sarcastically and put up numbers supported by your own preconceived notions of it t-5 being better. it doesn't make it so, t-5's are , ahmmm , a sham
 
i have never seen an acropora dominated tank running only PC's but quite a few acropora dominated tanks running only t-5's....even Danano's TOTM ran only t-5's

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-03/totm/index.php

they do all seem to suggest replacing bulbs at the 6-8 month (just like radium halide users)mark but like i said above i have yet to see an acropora dominated tank running only pcs

charlie
 
It's been proven that pc's are better than vho on a par basis, vho is better than t-5, t-5's spectrums do indeed give out in about 6 months, making the cost almost double that of pc's, and not even meeting pc's par. invest in t-5's all you want, but I'll take pc's over t-5's anyday. acro's and others are destined to die without halide, it's that simple. snprhed i don't know of any pics which I could show you with sps, but i'm sure there are thousans out there, check other threads if you feel I'm putting you on
 
i have to doubt the "acros will die without halides".......

Bernard Mohrs tank has been running a long time with only T-5's
and Iwan has tank pics under halides before he switched over to T-5's and the pics speak for themselves on all the links i posted!!!!
i think it has to do more on the spectrum with the T-5's then the par with success with keepng acroporas....

JMO
charlie
 
if i could afford the 750$ retrofit i would change my tank over from 2 250 DE halides and 4 110 VHO's to
8 54 watt T-5's (ATI bulbs of course!) just to experiment with them myself!

charlie
 
Blah blah blah. You are the one making the argument, you go get them. Until then be gone! You have no credibility
 
I have a PAR meter, T5 lamps and PC lamps, want to place a friendly wager on which ones produce the most PAR ovaltine? Hint: The T5's running on Ice Cap ballasts beat pretty good 250 watt metal halides :)
 
be gone? I have no credibility? As if you could tell me to do anything. I've proved wrong the "facts" that were put out about t-5's lasting longer than pc's and despite what is being said, t-5's are not better than pc's. you're going to have to learn to live with that fact
 
those t-5 tank picture have been enhanced. the saturation and contrast have been increased, in case you don't know about photo manipulation
 
thank you The Grim Reefer

and believe me i know how to manipulate photos! those photos have not been manipulated
if iwans photos had been his sand bed wouldnt appear white

charlie

PS ....i doubt highly doubt RC would give out TOTM too such obviously manipulated photos ;)
 
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