Perculas or Ocellaris?

[FishHick]

I bought both fish from the same store at different times. They were both sold as perculas, but they look different. What do you all think?

Thanks!

 

[budsnbuds]

My guess would be Ocellaris.

Were they sold as just 'Percula'? Some LFS, from what I've seen, will lable Ocellaris as 'Percula' or 'False Percula', and only lable Perculas as 'True Perculas'.

Looks like Ocellaris to me though.

HTH

 

[FishHick]

Thats what I thought also.

They were sold as true percs. I had originally wanted Ocellaris, but they said they dont carry those and so I went with these guys. Guess I got what I wanted anyway!

Thanks!

 

[theaquariumpro]

ocellaris, just different shades of orange. True percs, if they don't have a lot of black bordering the white bands then look for more of a protusion on the middle white band pointing towards the head. The top clown/ female looks a bit more like a percula.

ORA's captive bred clowns are hard to distinguish some times.

 

[zoomfish1]

They both look like true percs to me, one tank raised and one wild caught. I believe the tank raised is the lighter of the two.

 

[bwest]

A closer shot of them would be more helpful. I wanted to say ocellaris for the top one because of the taller dorsal fin, but then I saw that it's area around the eye is orange, which usually means A. percula. The lower one is hard to tell. I'm gonna say A. percula for both of them, but like I said, a closer shot would be more helpful.

 

[FishHick]

Thanks everyone, I will try to get a closer shot tomorrow.

 

[saltycreefer]

Both ocellaris.

 

[OrionN]

They are both Ocellaris. 100% sure.

 

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8674519#post8674519 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zoomfish1
They both look like true percs to me, one tank raised and one wild caught. I believe the tank raised is the lighter of the two.

why?

 

[natep206]

both occ.

 

[JamesJR]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8674519#post8674519 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zoomfish1
They both look like true percs to me, one tank raised and one wild caught. I believe the tank raised is the lighter of the two.

How in the world can you tell if they are tank raised by looking at them?

 

[lildraken]

do people still count the number of spines on the doral fins to determine an oscellaris and a true percula? what other ways are out there so you can tell them apart?

 

[JamesJR]

I read that the spine method doesn't always hold.

 

[bwest]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8682578#post8682578 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by lildraken
do people still count the number of spines on the doral fins to determine an oscellaris and a true percula? what other ways are out there so you can tell them apart?

From what I know, thicker black lines around the white stripes can help in identification, as well as dorsal fin height (usually taller in ocellaris), and the color around the eye (orange in A. percula, black in ocellaris).

I hope this is ok that I post a picture of mine that shows a comparison. Sorry for the slight blur in the photo.

The one on the left from what I know is a A. percula (at least that's what a bunch said in the one thread to confirm), and the one on the right is A. ocellaris.

I hope this helps a bit.

 

[SuperNerd]

IMO FishHick's clowns look false perculas (ocellaris). Top one almost 100% sure but lower one would like to see another pic.

The eyes of true percs are more clear and the dorsal fin is not as prominent/high as ocellaris. True percs have a different look in the face as well.

 

[OrionN]

FishHick picture is a flashed picture. Because of this reason, we cannot use the color of the ring around the eye to ID. The more Orange fish if very typical of Ocellaris raised by ORA or that marine center in England that breed fish and sell to US. I forgot the name of this large breeder. The lighter fish is also a Ocellaris that more likely wild caught.

 

[FishHick]

I took a more pictures, these are the best I could do with my POS camera. I have to use the flash or they turn out really blurry. I took at least 20 pictures of the darker orange one before my batteries gave out and this is the best I could get, sorry for it being so blurry.

Hope this helps. Thanks everyone for their comments!

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/darla4583/Renecloseup.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/darla4583/Chuck.jpg

 

[SuperNerd]

I still think Ocellaris.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8674519#post8674519 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zoomfish1
I believe the tank raised is the lighter of the two.

Aren't tank raised clowns darker in color?

 

[keefsama2003]

honestly i dont think color can effectively show w/c vs c/b diet can affect color of fish also. unless they were labeled as w/c i would say they are both c/b ocellaris