Phosban and reactor!!

[drfdisk]

I agree you should get a pump. I have 2 of the same reactors, one with phos, and one with carbon. The highest rate of flow through the media should only be about 30-50GPH. Putting it in a HOB would probably deplete your media too fast to do any good.

If you already have the reactor just buy the 15 dollar pump and be done with it. Otherwise you could be spending $$$ on Phosban every month!

Maxi-jet 400

 

[seapug]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12192492#post12192492 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mujtba
seapug, also how did u get those sexy colors for the zoos? can you post these for your tank:

CALC
PH
ALK
MAG
LIGHTING

Thanks.
I don't want to sidetrack the thread but to answer your questions:

Keeping Phosphate at an absolute minimum using PhosBan IN A REACTOR really improves the colors on all my corals.

I'm not a big "water tester," but here's some ballpark figures

calc: somewhere around 400
pH: 8.2 last time I checked (a couple months ago)
alk: usually somewhere between 8-12
mag: between 1200 and 1600 depending on whether or not I'm trying to kill bryposis.
lighting: 150W 14K Pheonix - 12K Reeflux - dual actinic PCs.

 

[jdieck]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12193927#post12193927 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mujtba
How do I T off? What parts?

Depends on how your powerhead is now conected to your fuge.
If it is a hose just get a T fitting and cut the hose in the middle and add another pice of hose from the T to the reactor's valve.
If it is hard PVC you need a slip T fitting to glue in both sides of the PVC pipe cut. Install a slip to female thred fitting on the T for the reactor and thread to it a male to insert fitting then a hose from there to the reactor.

 

[jennmac415]

what about using one of these little pumps? Could it be used to run 2 reactors..with a "T".... one with carbon and one with phosphate media?

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+4585+14665&pcatid=14665

 

[seapug]

I've heard of quite a few people who use those minijets. I use a MJ600 with two reactors daisy chained together (carbon then PhosBan) and I have to crank the flow valve way back. It doesn't take a large pump to operate them.

 

[Salamander]

I don't have a link but I remember a thread by Jetcat where he closely monitored phosphate levels for effectiveness of GFO reactors. It was a pretty good thread and might be worth a search.

 

[NeuroLarry]

I initially used ROWA Phos in a bag in my refugium with marginal results, I then added a Kent phospahate reactor and wasn't particularly impressed with the results. I just switched to GEO reactor and found it to be much more effective and easier to use. I think my system was too big for a single Kent reactor which is a toy compared to the GEO.

 

[spleen93]

I use a minijet for my phosban reactor - works well (though even with that, I need to turn down the flow). The minijet is nice and slim, even smaller than the maxijet which makes it perfect in my cramped sump.

 

[mikesommers]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12194724#post12194724 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by seapug
I've heard of quite a few people who use those minijets. I use a MJ600 with two reactors daisy chained together (carbon then PhosBan) and I have to crank the flow valve way back. It doesn't take a large pump to operate them.

Im using a minijet no valves and it works GREAT!

 

[Red_Six]

I second the tee fitting idea. The reactor uses very little flow.

 

[mujtba]

So tell me this.. is the PHOSBAN supposed to remove all ALGAE from tank? what is the purpose of it? It removes phospates, but how do we visibilly tell?

 

[Red_Six]

Phosphates inhibit coral growth.

Algae feed on phosphates.

Test your water to know what your current phosphate levels are.

 

[mujtba]

Well i dont know if any of u have the CPR HOB fuge.. if u saw the 1st chamber, you would know what im saying.. the phosban reactor is just a cylinder for water to pass thru the phosban.. a nice idea.. however, there must be more than 1 way to skin a cat.. it looks like im first to experiment this.

 

[seapug]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12199642#post12199642 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mujtba
So tell me this.. is the PHOSBAN supposed to remove all ALGAE from tank? what is the purpose of it? It removes phospates, but how do we visibilly tell?

When the algae dies and disappears. It might take a few weeks and one or two media changes, but it does work. When you see it happen it's worth every penny.

 

[jawaiianmon]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12201519#post12201519 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by seapug
When the algae dies and disappears. It might take a few weeks and one or two media changes, but it does work. When you see it happen it's worth every penny.

I put in a reactor for phosban and one for carbon about three weeks ago and I am watching my hair algae slowly starve and die off. Poor thing.

 

[mujtba]

What does carbon do? How come i use RODI water and still get phospate?

So i wont see PHOSBAN results for like 2 weeks?

And the first time, I do have to replace the phosband quicker??? Not after 2 months?

 

[mujtba]

In addition to my QUESTION on previous post. So please answer that.

Anyway, this is how it works in my tank for a better understanding:

So I am hoping it works out for me. I will keep you guys posted on results. Its been on for 2 days now, and I do see LESS algae in my FUGE already. Maybe it will slowly effect the tank too?

 

[mujtba]

okay time for update/... algae has been diminishing from my tank.. it is MUCH less than b4, especially brown algae... so looks like the media bag in fuge is workin!!! no need for reactor. jus have to put the media bag where wated flows thru always.

 

[seapug]

the reactors are a proven method, but as always, go with whatever works for you....

 

[jdieck]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12203504#post12203504 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mujtba
What does carbon do? How come i use RODI water and still get phospate?
Carbon is mostly effective in removing disolved organic compounds like tannins (from algae) that discolor the water, alopathic compounds released by soft corals as defense, any volatile organic that gets in your water from cleaners, cooking or so. Carbon will only remove some phosphates and nitrates that bind to organics so it is very ineffective in their removal.

The largest source of phosphate is the food we add besides some water sources.

So i wont see PHOSBAN results for like 2 weeks?
Depends on the initial level of phosphates and the amount of media being used. It might take as little as four to five days or as long as a month to start seeing some results.

And the first time, I do have to replace the phosband quicker??? Not after 2 months? If the initial level is high the media may saturate very quickly (in two to four days) It will last two months only after you have reached the lower level of less than 0.03 ppm. Of course how long also depends on the amount of import and other exports.

Finally if you use the media in a bag try tightning it so the media dose not play around with the flow, as it is brittle it will pulverize and end up in your tank. Also to improve flow thru try using pelletized media like Phosar.
Also in a bag there wil be more tendency for the media to clump together so watch for that clumping which deteriorates the flow and neads you to break the clumps once in a while.