Photo period for chaeto

H@rry

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Buzz gave me some chaeto at the last meeting and I added it to my sumps and got a couple of the spiral lights at WalMart (5500 or 6500). They have been on 24/7 but I'm thinking about putting them on timers with a reverse daylight cycle. What photo period do most people use?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9580603#post9580603 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by andyjd
with mine in 24/7 I seem to get cyano

Yeah, that's what's starting to happen to mine. Cyano was the reason I wanted it in the first place. It's just starting in the area under the light.
 
If you turn off the light above the refugium for 4 to 7 days, you can kill off cyano there without harming chaeto or caulerpa. Cyano cannot store energy in their body for a long time whereas macroplants can. I have done this a few times successfully. It is effective to add more flow to the surface where cyano tends to congregate to keep cyano out.

Plants and macroalgae need a dark period to oxidize the sugar/carbohydrates obtained from photosynthesis and grow. This is known as dark respiration.

Tomoko
 
Here's a response from Beaslbob to Harry:
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Harry:

Try bumping up nitrates with to 5-10 ppm and see if that helps reduce the cyano. that said I do get very sight tinges of red on my chaetomorphia.
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Bumping up nitrates works to get rid of cyanobacteria in a fresh water tank. It's a common practice in a planted aquarium injected with CO2. It takes advantage of actively photosynthesizing plants' or macroalgae's ability to take up excess phosphate.

However, this idea is like a double edge sword in a reef tank because elevated nitrate can feed the zooxanthellae in our corals thereby turning them brown.

Tomoko
 
I always tried to keep nitrates as close to zero as possible. I haven't checked them in at least 6 years or so (since the tank cycled). How would I "bump up nitrates"?
 
I believe that beaslbob adds potassium nitrate - also known as salt peter. Greenlight brand Stump Remover is also pure potassium nitrate. I have some reagent grade potassium nitrate for my FW planted tank. You are welcome to it if you'd like, but I'd try turning out the light for the refugium for 4 to 7 days first. It won't affect your macro and you'll be surprised to find how well it works.

Tomoko
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9583683#post9583683 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by H@rry
I always tried to keep nitrates as close to zero as possible. I haven't checked them in at least 6 years or so (since the tank cycled). How would I "bump up nitrates"?

Sitting here chuckling at that cause it sounds like me.

"I try to keep my nitrates at zero"
I haven't checked them i at least six years. LOL
 
I had very slow growth when I ran 24/7. It speeded up quite a bit with just an 8 hour dark period.
 
I do mine on a reverse cycle.. My fuge cuts on at 11:00pm and off at 1:00pm sooo I guess thats what on for 14 and off for 10.

lol FWIW H@rry I test my No3 about once a year.;)

Will
 
This all got started two months ago when I started feeding newly hatched brine shrimp every other day. We hatched them in a 2 liter coke bottle and poured them in the tank. We thought we were "feeding the coral". After two of these feedings I noticed the green algae on the tank glass was a whole lot worse and then read that you shouldn't pour in the hatching water. So we stared straining the shrimp though a coffee filter. This went on for a couple of weeks. Then the cyano started. I figured the shrimp were what caused it and quit feeding them. Since that time we've had a red blanket on the bottom with bubbles in it. Lori gave me some Phosban and that has helped. I thought that the chaeto might help somehow too.

Here I am for the past several years figuring that nitrates were a thing of the past. Now people tell me I should actually be *putting* nitrates in my tanks! I think I'll just go back to the under gravel filter.
 
Haha, H@rry, it sounds like you were overfeeding your tank.
When I overfeed my 15G tank, the same thing happens. After a little while, cyano goes away. I believe that it's because I have a large plant fuge on that tank - no skimmer, no phosban, no GAC there. I hope your tank will go back to normal with reduced feeding.

GFO seems to help against cyano. I don't get cyano in my 120G even though I feed very heavily everyday. This tank has GFO, GAC and a good skimmer. This tank with Phosban (Phosar now) does not support Chaeto very well. Chaeto tends to do poorly (turns into grey mush) while caulerpa racemosa grows although very slowly. They seem to need a bit more phosphate than caulerpa does.

Tomoko
 
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