Yes, selective breeding off of interesting wild and bred fish from what I've seen. One of the supposed wild breeders from ORA came from the Los Angeles area...pic of it is here from Anthony's place. However, take it for what it's worth, because it is just his claim that this fish is at ORA in their breeding program, but it was a gorgeous clown! aquadesignz.com/hof.htm scroll to the bottom of the page.