pics of my longest resident after a bristle worm attack(H. hippopus)

well then, why is it that i have observed firewoms eating healthy tissue? IMO, telling people that there is no possibility that they could eat live tissue is irresponsible. in all reality, anything is possible as behaviors change in a captive situation. and to the best of my knowledge, the term bristleworm does not cover all polychate annelids, but the term polychaete annelids does cover all bristleworms.
 
well then, why is it that i have observed firewoms eating healthy tissue?
I think you would be hard pressed to show that the worm was an amphinomid and that the tissue was healthy. If you did, it would contradict years of research on these worms, and you would have some pretty groundbreaking research on your hands.

In all reality, anything is possible as behaviors change in a captive situation.
They can only change as much as physiology allows. Being in captivity doesn't change how they find food, which is by smell. If you were stripped of your senses except for smell and a much simpler sense of touch, I could let you loose in an apple orchard and you would starve to death surrounded by potential food just because you have no way of knowing it's there. It works the same way with fireworms. Decomposing animals give off characteristic compounds that these worms respond to. If those compounds aren't there the worms don't respond and don't eat.

and to the best of my knowledge, the term bristleworm does not cover all polychate annelids, but the term polychaete annelids does cover all bristleworms.
Polychaete translates to many bristles. It covers all bristleworms. The hobby didn't invent the term bristleworm.
 
No offense but that is a bad algae problem. About the bristleworms. I have seen several large and small in my 40 breeder. I have a Crocea as well as Zoanthids and other corals. I only have 2 fish so there is not much waste in my tank. I do weekly water changes and have 0 algae to speak of growing. With that said I have never seen a bristleworm munch on any of my corals, clam, etc.
 
i emailed a clam breeder/import(located in california) and his reply was that a clam under 3" can be attacked by bristle worms even if its healthy(he has had it happen a few times but says it very rare in aquaria settings), and he also said hair algea and other algeas will not cause death to a clam he noted cultured clams released into ocean holding areas usually get large amount of hair algea on them with no ill affects.

FWIW
ben
 
his reply was that a clam under 3" can be attacked by bristle worms even if its healthy(he has had it happen a few times but says it very rare in aquaria settings)
No doubt there are some polychaetes that will go after healthy clams, but those will go after clams regardless of what size and none of them are fireworms. There are lots of things wrong with a statement like that. Chief among them is how in the world would he know that the clam was healthy? People assume you can look at animals and judge whether or not they are healthy, which isn't true in probably the majority of cases. There is no way to look at a clam externally and tell that it's healthy. They only make it clear sometimes that they are unhealthy before they die. Since he only thinks that the worms attack clams under 3'' that would suggest to me that the clams are starving to death. Under 3'' they don't make enough food from photosynthesis alone, and there is no outward sign that they are starving.
 
I have to fully agree with greenbean....the clam was not healthy if it was being scavenged by bristleworms. Secondly, hair algae like that does not appear overnight. Your tank has got obvious nutrient import/export issues. An unstable environment like that is not suitable for a clam, as they require very stable parameters to even survive in a tank, much less grow and thrive.

Take your time and try not to rush things. Get your tank stable, control nutrients, and try again! Good luck!
 
i didnt really trust what the clam breeder said, as he does it to sell them to the food market.

and on thursday i cleaned the tank and change the water with ro/di, i was using tap water.(didnt have a way to get ro/di water, but i do now thanks to CaveManNOhio) and its stayed clean so far usually id see new hair algea growth by now if id used tap.

heres pics from today:
 
bencozzy,
I'm glad to see that things are clearing up for you. Only now I notice another problem, but this one is easily changed and could affect the health of everything in the tank. On your powerheads output you used a METAL clamp to attach the hose to the output. I know that can't be a good thing cause I have clamps like that and they do rust. I'd get it out of there and replace it with a plastic one ASAP.
-Kris
 
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