Pomacanthidae with Tridacna in aquaria

this is a thread to share methods, techniques and suggestions for harmoniously maintaining marine Angelfish with Tridacna clams in reef aquariums.
Please feel free to share your experiences with others here.
A few things might seem obvious for success, but some might not be so obvious to others so let's try to include all factors for success.
First off I'd like to quickly list some of the more obvious:

*aquarium size matters
this is probably the most obvious factor. You can't keep a large clam or large Angelfish in a very small aquarium by itself let alone together. Purchase species that are appropriate for the size of aquarium you're placing them in. Angelfish predation usually increases as the aquarium size decreases- bigger is better!
*species matter
this applies to every animal you place in your aquarium. Some species of Angelfish stay under two inches length while some species grow to around two feet in length. Some Angelfish species are planktivores and some are herbivores. The family varies greatly in habits. IME any Angelfish that's very hungry is a potential threat to clams. Tridacna clams also vary in size with species.
*animal size matters
ties in with species. Small (less than 2") Tridacna can be a challenge to grow even if you don't have an Angelfish in the same aquarium. The success rate is likely to be better if you obtain a clam larger than 2" IME.
The opposite is true with Angelfish- the larger the species/individual fish the easier it is for it to make a quick snack out of your clam.
*placement matters
this is a not-so-obvious factor. Tridacna clams such as maxima and crocea often bore into the substrate (rock/coral) below them in the wild. This leaves only the upward section of their light sensing mantle exposed to fish predation. In nature, as soon as the clam senses something above it retracts it's mantle.
It's usually a different story in reef aquariums. Clams are usually exposed to attack from fishes from the underside. It won't take long for an Angelfish that's hungry to figure out what it needs to do for a free meal of clam chowder.
*feedings matter
pretty obvious. Keep your Angelfish well fed! You might not want to feed it prepared clams (or other meaty seafoods) or it might develop a taste for your Tridacna clam. A refugium and large amount of area (liverock) can also help provide your Angelfish with food.
*luck
every fish has it's own unique "tastes"

more input is always welcome to this thread- it was just a brief summary of some basic advice that might help someone keep these beautiful animals together in their aquarium. In certain cases it might be impossible to keep a Tridacna clam with a certain Angelfish. Each situation is unique.
 
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IME angelfish are not reef safe. None of them. Sure people have success with them in a tank with their corals, but they do eat things that as reef keepers we would not like them to eat. All Pomocanthids are the worst. Apart from the SPS nut with them they kill and eat everything else and get mean when large. If you want a large Pomacanthidae type angel, Get a large FOWLR tank and enjoy them as the beautiful animals that they are. But mixing clams with Angels is like mixing recovered alcoholics with a keg of beer. Bad Idea.
 
Good Idea Gary :thumbsup:

125 SPS reef with 3in Maxima and 5in deresa clam housing juvenile Emperor & adult Asfur. (clams were on the sand bed in plain view)


I contribute success to:

-Oscillating flow, always changing there swimming pattern.
-Frequent Feedings
-Purchasing them when they were young.
-Many dither fish

The tank also had 2 tangs and many chromis and damsels that would often grab the angels attention.
 
It's true that keeping Angelfish with clams isn't the best of ideas.
Be prepared to yank the clam (or fish!) if the fish ever starts nipping a clam. As any Angelfish keeper can tell you, Angelfish habits can change overnight. I would never recommend keeping an Angelfish with a really expensive clam!

glassbox-design- thanks for the suggestions.
I agree that water flow can make a difference and should be considered when coming up with a clam placement strategy.
A clam located in really good water motion up at the top of the reef structure probably has a better shot at surviving than one placed low near an Angelfish's bolt hole.

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Nice tank. I have a Blueface Angel in a FOWLR that eats everything but star polyp, tubinaria, and euphilia. I have seen it eat toadstools, colt corals, mushrooms and favia. He would greedily eat everything in both of these tanks. Not to mention that lemonpeel, ebli, half black, black and juv koran angels that I have had to pull from clients tanks because of coral eating habits.

to those that mix without trouble, cheers and keep the luck rolling. I would love to keep angels in reefs, but I will stick to the easy stuff.
 

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