Possible Pathogen Based Acro Necrosis

i will have to look into that then

so just be straight forward about it all and what i am gonna use it for...

any ideas on how much?

wait... did someone mention a dosing regimen herein?

okie dokie
 
gonna be doing some searches... but anybody with any info on vibrio infections, tank related or not, etc... please share if you dont mind speeding up my research process
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9992013#post9992013 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kip
iwait... did someone mention a dosing regimen herein?

I used 10mg/gal doxycycline for 48hrs in a QT tank. During the treatment keep the tank covered, meaning put a blanket or something over it so it is in darkness, or at least keep it someplace with the light off.

I have only done this in a QT tank. The water will turn very yellow after the treatment this is the doxi breaking down with the light.
 
hey Kip sorry i could not mail those to you-please keep us posted on your progress.
Doxycycline - Inhibits protein synthesis and, thus, bacterial growth by binding to 30S and possibly 50S ribosomal subunits of susceptible bacteria.
This bacterium is frequently isolated from the estuarine and marine environment of the United States. Both pathogenic and non-pathogenic forms of the organism can be isolated from marine and estuarine environments and from fish and shellfish dwelling in these environments.

Several other marine vibrios have been implicated in human disease- so after ruling out all other problems why not abx dip?
 
So the dip would kill the vibrio on the SPS corals, but wouldn't it still exist in the tank and lead to re-infection? Or would this not be the case?
 
the online vendor that sent me interceptor in the past doesnt offer it

other pet med place wanna Rx

i almost pulled the trigger on an overseas placed but chickened out

i guess i could cut my husky, get it infected... take him to the vet and try to get some :(


sheez... why does this have to be hard?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9993164#post9993164 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tylorarm
So the dip would kill the vibrio on the SPS corals, but wouldn't it still exist in the tank and lead to re-infection? Or would this not be the case?

in my case... i'd be rolling the dice that o3 and u/v would kill the vibrio in the water column
 
Do any of your local pet stores or LFS use a certain vet for all shots etc? I found that to be my path to getting the drugs. Pet store calls vet go down pic up script.
 
The one thing that I can see is what is everyone using for a test kit? It seems to me that Salifert is going through QC problems at the moment. We heavily rely on Salifert to be on the money but there are obviosly problems with the company ATM.

I have read of problems with the KH, Calcium, and Magnesium kits recently. From personal experience I have 300 ppm swings on magnesium test kits within 5 minutes of testing.
 
I don't think a UV would kill it unless it travels through it. Good chance it probably won't get them all.

I would look at commonalities between both tanks and there should be your answer.

So far I have seen two things.

Vendors and Kalk. You stated RO and Salt are completely different. You also have a CA reactor so that rules that out.

I would almost wonder if you have a bad batch of kalk or maybe something was introduced that isn't healthy for corals but fine for human consumption.

I would personally immediately stop the kalk and give it a week to see any changes. I would also maybe try to replace all RO/DI filters as well.

Good luck man. Let me know when you suceed at this and maybe I can toss a few back your way.
 
kalk was bought in 5gal bucket bulk (ESV)... been using it for around a year... in fact... it is about out
 
Are all the affected tanks under the same roof? If so, I might wonder if there is something in the air (carbon monoxide, or something) that a good air purifier might help with.
Although, if that were the case, I don't think you'd be loosing them one or two at a time, it would probably be more of a crash scenario.
 
not same roof... not as of today when i saw the issues beginning in my work system

yeah... i cant figure out why it isnt more wide spread than it is.... just seems to be happening 1 by 1 at this point
 
I don't know if this would help or not. Have you tried examining the coral under a microscope? Perhaps it could be another type of AEFW but smaller?

I'm kind of at a loss.
 
Do either tanks have CULTURED live rock or the concrete frag plugs in them? I saw a post by Eric from the Frag Farmer he lost a lot of SPS in one of his systems and he seems to think its from a lot of frag plugs he added. I have been told if the plugs are made from gray portland cement and not white there can be a problem.
 
yeah... i have looked at acros that have passed ... i havent taken afflicted, live tissue to put under the scope

none of the colonies, mini-colonies, or frags have had any eggs

keep the ideas coming though.... i appreciate the efforts
 
all rock marshall.... frag plugs... had that idea so... i transplanted all frags to new plastic plugs with no change (most were already on plastic/rubber flower picks... but i did have some from vendors already on man-made rock plugs
 
I had a problem with a shipment of acros from C.V. Dinar, not too long ago. They had an infection that was not far from what you are describing. I received the shipment that started dying so I move some of the pieces to another system ( thinking the original water was not to spec. )and the infection spread fast (with in 24 hours). Most other sps were losing the tissue . It took several weeks to stop the losses, I used ozone and UV , Every day I removed all tissue that looked damaged, I removed all +1".
 
hi phillip.. .i'd actually heard a bit of your story before you told it.... i believe we have a mutual friend in chris sarris
 
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