Pruning Anemones

[Coral Hind]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15547576#post15547576 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by aquaph8
there is a big difference between someone with experience and someone who has been in the hobby for 1 year doing this. Most people new to the hobby have a hard enough time keeping Anemones alive. I am all for captive cloning and breeding of marine life. People should be somewhat seasoned in the hobby to even attemp to have an anemone little lone clone one. Its pretty contradicting to claim to be doing the ocean a favor when your promoting the cloning of Nems by people with a year of experience.

Go back and re-read. I never told anyone they had to go and cut the anemone. I simply said that it was not possible to "prune" a piece off of it but that it was possible to laterally dissect it. I assumed that the original poster had heard about lateral dissection and had it confused with "pruning". I then laid out how it was done successfully to teach them. I think it is everyones right to know how to do something and it is their judgement if they want to try it or not. Again, this started as simply trying to inform the original poster that "pruning" was not an option.

My first BTA that I cut came from Traveller7 eight years ago. Had I not learned as much information as I could about anemones and how they were able to reproduce assexually I would not have cut that first one. That info was learned here from others sharing their experiences and I am passing that info on. If you don't want to read it then I suggest you unsubsribe form the thread and stop trying to sensor valid information.

 

[syrinx]

Hard to say what a newbie is anymore. I would trust a student with disecting skills, or a surgeon with 6mos experiance with reefs before I would trust someone with lots of experience and no history of using a blade. Or someone that was squeemish for that matter. If you can keep an anemone alive, you can keep a clone alive. It doubles your chance of sucess in fact!

 

[aquaph8]

Go make your own post about cloning anemones. Think it out completely and include all the information necessary for people to make an educated decision. Your crash course in the middle of a person thread ( thats thinking of pruning an anemone) is not a good place to drop this info. This is great info, I just think its in the wrong place. Maybe include some literature for people to go read and study. The subject is very interesting to everyone im sure. All im asking is that you share your info in a place better suited.


'keeping an anemone alive doubles your chance of sucess'
Ya think

 

[KyleO]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15547862#post15547862 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by aquaph8
Go make your own post about cloning anemones. Think it out completely and include all the information necessary for people to make an educated decision. Your crash course in the middle of a person thread ( thats thinking of pruning an anemone) is not a good place to drop this info. This is great info, I just think its in the wrong place. Maybe include some literature for people to go read and study. The subject is very interesting to everyone im sure. All im asking is that you share your info in a place better suited.

So what is your advice to Taconic?

IMO the advice that Coral Hind shared was relevant and helpful........

 

[aquaph8]

My advice would be to make more room for it, move it to another tank or find it a new home.
If he clones it then he has two, one of which will need a new home anyway. If he suceeds, the new anemone will grow pretty fast and then he'll be back where he started. How is making two gonna help with not having room for one.

 

[syrinx]

So your advice is the same as coral hind wrote in his first post. The whole cloning thing was simply," no you can`t prune, you were hearing about cloning"- then with a description of what cloning is. The only reason the subject of how to do it was brought up, was the poster had misinformation on how to clone as well.

 

[zilofidelious]

I think this is an informative thread. thanks Hind and OP

 

[aquaph8]

I agree it is informative info. My advice is the same until all the cloning info came up. The info is great, I just dont think that its an option for the poster. Cloning has no part in this thread but would make a great thread on its own.

 

[rkelman]

I think the cloning info is relevant to the thread. The op asked about pruning an anemone and was given an alternative. If we agree or disagree with the alternative is irrelevant.

 

[MM WI]

At first read I thought prunning sounded crazy. Not much crazier than cutting in half a rare red carpet as I read ocasionally. I would guess prunning has been done. Not a good idea with a valuable anemone certainly but I would bet there are people who have done this.

In fact now that I think about it, I once tollerated a nuisance curlyque anemone in a tank. I would let it grow until it started to get close to the corals and would then snip it with a large pair of sharp sizzors. It would then slowly grow back and then repeat. After a while I tired of the process and cut off its entire head. No surprise it grew back its entire head.

The most rational advice would be to decide which you would rather have, a large anemone or fewer corals. We have to make decisions like this all of the time. There is only so much realestate in a tank and everything grows. Congradulate yourself on your sucess and decide what you want more.

- mark

 

[savageAJC]

great info hind.

OP asked if he could prune, was told he could not, and asked if he meant cutting it in half.
Hind also replied and said
" No you can not successfully "prune" an anemone, but lateral division is absolutely possible.

Your best bet is to move the coral. If you do not have room then corals need to be thinned or the anemone moved to another tank."

OP asked what was the best method to laterally dissect the nem, so Hind posted his method, with pics. [ dissecting nem/ cloning info was requested by OP here]

i really dont get what the unnecessary arguing is about?

imo Hind here helping and posting pics is much better than a vid on youtube or reading a diy site of some sort. you can ask questions and get answers.

whether your a beginner or not it is your choice to follow someones advice, only you know what your capable of. and you can do your own research if you still want to pursue.

peace

oh yea, i also think your best bet is to move the nem, and if thats not possible (smaller tank/ nems move on their own) might want to consider selling/trading nem or getting rid of some corals.

 

[LadyAqua]

Aquaph8- I think people are well enough on their own to decide whether or not they want to "clone" their anemone. You have pulled this thread off topic by complaining about very good information and throwing it into a negative light. If the newb wants to cut his nem then he will cut his nem. People have given him ideas and information about his options and hopefully he will make an educated decision about it. But, please don't sit hear and babysit the newbs or anyone for that matter.

Coral Hind- I appreciate your info and and have learned something new about cloning after reading your posts which has made me want to research it more. I am in no way going to "chop chop", but the information is intriguing, thank you!

Taconic- In my experience I found it better to move corals away from the anemone, or move it to another tank without so many corals for it to intrude on. Good Luck!

 

[aquaph8]

hmm thats what I said
Reef Central is here to help people not send them off in the wrong direction
Besides Im entitled to my opinion, if you dont want to here anymore from me then dont use my name in your post, just give your two sense and move on. I stated what I think and I'm done now, if it keeps going its cause you brought me back into it.

 

[PolypHunter]

I would have to agree with coral hind...

He just giving out info that he has obtained as to exp. Besides

Quote:Coral Hind "We as hobbiest need to wake up and educate ourselves and learn to sustain the hobby ourselves. If we don't we will only import more anemones and deplete the oceans. The bans on imported livestock gets tougher every year with countries limiting even what they are collecting and exporting. Seven years ago I only knew of three pleople cloning anemones. Daniel Knop, Anthony Calfo and Myself. At the time a RBTA was selling for almost 4x what they are now. Thanks to Calfo and others spreading the techniques of lateral dissection the amount of available aquacultured anemones has grown to the point were almost anyone is able to now afford a RBTA."

 

[itsdarrow]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15557790#post15557790 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by aquaph8
hmm thats what I said
Reef Central is here to help people not send them off in the wrong direction
Besides Im entitled to my opinion, if you dont want to here anymore from me then dont use my name in your post, just give your two sense and move on. I stated what I think and I'm done now, if it keeps going its cause you brought me back into it.

thank god your done.

Coral great inf, good relevant post. I agree with with what you. I never knew that about anemones and am grateful for informative people like you in the hobby.

 

[laverda]

Cloaning a anemone is not brian surgery and is easily done by someone with no experiance. Granted it will not really solve the OPs problem as a cloan will quickly grow back just as large if conditions are good.

 

[logankolby]

After reading 2 pages of arguing about pruning and cutting, and crying about hurting the anemones. I lost track if anyone actually answered your oringial question. Anyway, if it's a sebea or bubble tip I'd say cut it. be it half or 3rd, or quarter. just remember. each piece needs a piece of the mouth to form a new one. GOOD LUCK. if your not comfortable with cutting it. move it or trade it with someone for a smaller one.