Purple Tang

does ICH kill the fish directly? or does it just irritate them and indirectly kill them by lowering the immune system
 
I believe the "Ich" can cause fish death. "...burrows into the host’s skin, gills, and fins, where it feeds on the fluids contained within the host’s body."
 
Larry,
let me ask you a couple of questions: 1) Is ich a result of the fish being stressed, (no matter what contributed), thus the ich develops or is ich something that is contracted from another host/ich parasite was already established? 2) If you quarintine a fish for 3 to 4 wks in a QT tank, then after no problems move it to the display wouldn't the move stress the fish as well?
Frank
 
here is a article on ich in fresh water same thing but treated differently. http://aqualandpetsplus.com/Misc What is Ich.htm I had one outbreak and a old timer told me to use garlic since then I feed with garlic and never had a problem. It is stress that lets the ich get a hold of fish. Tangs can be little freaks when first brought home. Adding him to another tank may help but may make it worse.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11846840#post11846840 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Editour2
Larry,
let me ask you a couple of questions: 1) Is ich a result of the fish being stressed, (no matter what contributed), thus the ich develops or is ich something that is contracted from another host/ich parasite was already established? 2) If you quarintine a fish for 3 to 4 wks in a QT tank, then after no problems move it to the display wouldn't the move stress the fish as well?
Frank


I'd go as far as to say that most of our tanks have ich in them. In the tanks where you never see it, chances are that the fish are just healthy enough to fight off the parasite. That's not to say that there aren't a good number of "clean" tanks out there, I just tend to believe that those are not the norm. If you follow the advice offered by those that know, you can have an ich free tank.
Fish become stressed for a lot of reasons, and that's when the ich gets a chance to take hold. I think it's fairly accurate to compare ich in fish to the cold in humans. When your defenses are down, the cold gets you.
Doing water changes in your QT with water that you remove from your display helps, a lot, where stress of moving to the display is concerned, but won't work if you are QTing in hyposalinity, or there's ich in your display.
You can pretty much count on stress with most new additions, especially if you have a fish in your tank that doesn't like the new addition.
 
All the products such as No Sick Fish are snake oil They just dont work and you throw your money away. Ive had ick here and there throughout the years. Ive had better results doing absolutely nothing other than feeding with garlic and making sure the fish were otherwise happy. I have 3 super ick magnets in my tank now. A powder blue and 2 hippos. There all clean and just went thru the stress of my swap from my 125 to the 180 last weekend.
 
If its just ich, most fish can pull through. If its amylodinium copper is the only thing that will help.
The lesson is quarinteen all new arrivals for at least 3 weeks and for 90.00 bucks for a 3" p.tangs switch LFS.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11856831#post11856831 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bobbbm
He is still in the tank... only 2 spots left no other signs on any fish... /fingers crossed.

if you havent yet, please READ ick thread compiled by Bill on fish dse. forum, for your own benefit & make your own decision on how to handle it. everyone has reason why they did what they did during an ick attack, as Larry said kinda like colds to humans. some people can ride it through without anything, some like some meds, some get meds & things get worse (wrong meds), some like to go to professionals & get diagnosed if it is colds & the get treated.

I Hope I managed to confuse you even more...... READ! :rollface:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11868560#post11868560 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bobbbm
So far so good Clear as a bell and nothing on any other fish.

Read up on the life cycle of the parasite. That's normal, the ICH didn't just disappear, or die off for no reason. It's still in your tank.
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