Quarantine RODI Wastewater

[luther1200]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14661106#post14661106 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kenmx10
I think we need to consider the whole purpose for using RO/DI water. Its for the health of the fish. We want our $125.00 purple tang to be nice and healthy, so he can fight off the tramma we put them through by snatching them out of their naturally balanced, environment and sticking them in a box. Healthy fish are less likely to get parasites, infections, death, etc.

Im still not exactly sure what the intentions are. Is it just to use the water because you can? Or are you trying to save money on filters? Are you worried about your water bill?

Carbon and sediment filters are pretty cheap. And if you change them out regularly as needed, Your RO filter should last a long time, giving your fish plenty of health water. The RO filter does the bulk of the work. Bye pass it and you never know what you are really getting. Unless you do a lab test on your tap water every time you use it. That will cost a lot more than a sediment filter( 2-3 dollars)

As far as your water bill , It may be the difference in one or two showers, maybe .50 cents a month or so.

If it were me, I would be more worried about the $125 Tang, $70 Angle, $60 Butterfly, etc.... But you never know, They may do just fine. I quess thats just a chance one has to take....

Agreed. I just don't see the point. Why try to reinvent the wheel on something so basic and simple.

 

[bradbmbj]

I understand to much calcium can lower alk, but I simply am not just adding the water, I change it, If a clam shows no ill effects why should a fish? What does high P04 levels do to fish? TDS is 129 right now, P04, honestly I have to test it.

 

[luther1200]

What do you think people are buying Phosban reactors and all the media for. A high enough PO4 level can be detrimentle.

 

[bradbmbj]

you guys are taking this all wrong, I just think we are sometimes mislead by the manufacturers, I am not saying rodi filters are overated, I invested in a Spectrapure for the 98% rejection and the quality. I am simply saying that the ro is a mechanical filter, it removes minerals not chemicals. again what minerals would be detrimental to fish?

 

[bradbmbj]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14661150#post14661150 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by luther1200
What do you think people are buying Phosban reactors and all the media for. A high enough PO4 level can be detrimentle.

People buy them to reduce the p04 to stop algae and for the corals not for the harm of the fish

 

[Paul B]

Bradbmbj, I don't think there is anything wrong with using waste water from an RO for a quarantine tank for fish.
PO4 or nitrate levels found in waste water or tap water will not hurt a fish. My tap water has a nitrate reading of 10.
As long as carbon is in line, go ahead and use it

 

[luther1200]

A high enough level will harm fish. They are just more tolerant of it than coral.

 

[bradbmbj]

but thats not why they buy them

 

[bradbmbj]

Is that why you bought yours for the fish? no you have it to control algae groth like the other 99% of us, you cant PROVE your point and your going off topic

 

[THE ROOK]

Why even post this if your not open to our opinions & advice? We have all given you the same advice & it doesn't conform to what your doing so we are being "misled by the manufacturers". That's total b.s.

 

[dwd5813]

well without a full analysis of both types no one here can PROVE their point.
you seem to be set on this being a good idea, and it seems to be working okay for you, so i say just do what you were likely going to continue doing anyway. good luck.

 

[luther1200]

I bought mine to lower PO4. Wheither it be for fish health, or coral health.

 

[bradbmbj]

I was looking for facts and not everyone is agreeing with you, and you for one moment dont think we are ever misled by the big companies? get real

 

[bradbmbj]

Again folks, I am not set on this but I continue to get responses based on things that dont make sense, this disscussion has went from someone saying chlorine levels will be I higher, then I stated that the ro wont remove that anyway, to people forcing a phosphate issue which none of us test for for the fish. its almost completly a algae concern.I am wondering what makes 5 gallons of water essentially evaporated into four so bad?

 

[dwd5813]

i respect your search for facts. i was worried that statement would come off wrong, so i apologize for any offense interpreted. the only facts i have to base my opinion on are the tds readings i took. i haven't tested any other specific parameters, nor do i know the exact makeup of the tds involved in my readings. it is my opinion that given what limited information i have on the matter, i would prefer to put my fish in pure water rather than water i know to be infused with unknowns. might that be a little paranoid? absolutely. like i said, it seems to be working out okay for you, so it's probably alright with your water.

 

[bradbmbj]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14661304#post14661304 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dwd5813
i respect your search for facts. i was worried that statement would come off wrong, so i apologize for any offense interpreted. the only facts i have to base my opinion on are the tds readings i took. i haven't tested any other specific parameters, nor do i know the exact makeup of the tds involved in my readings. it is my opinion that given what limited information i have on the matter, i would prefer to put my fish in pure water rather than water i know to be infused with unknowns. might that be a little paranoid? absolutely. like i said, it seems to be working out okay for you, so it's probably alright with your water.

no offense has been taken, and your post is very well put

 

[luther1200]

All I know is tha NSW has a very low PO4 level. So IMO you would want a QT tank to have the same. Although they will probably never be as low as NSW, we should try to make them as low as possible. I was just asking if you ever checked the level to see if it was high.

 

[luther1200]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14661065#post14661065 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by luther1200
I wouldn't go compairing some one who uses tap water for a reef to what you want to do. Just because people ignorantly use tap water for a reef doesn't mean thay will not have problems(algae issues, high PO4,). And even if the majority of the WW content is Ca., you don't want to much of that either. You can overdose on anything if it gets out of balance.

There are always ways around "the rules". You may just have excelant source tap water. Which would be my guess as to why you haven't had any problems yet.

What is your tap water TDS? PO4 level?

This is my original comment where I asked your tap water PO4 level. I just wanted to know your source water levels, how you took this out of context I don't know.

 

[davewbush]

What are your readings on the qt tank at? Sal, nitrate, phos, ammonia? I'm just wondering. How often do you have a fish in the tank or any thing.

 

[Kenmx10]

I understand your point and it is a valid one. The best way to find the answer your looking for is for you to do the research yourself. Find the contents of your local water source. Then do some more research on your filters and what they will do for you. Then you will come to a conclusion that you alone can be satisfied with.

Water quality is a big part of this hobby. When you indirectly post comments saying its Baloney and a waste of time and money , your are only asking for an argument here Im afraid.

Most of us realize your are wanting the FACTS of whether it would be a good idea or bad. trying to further your knowledge of the hobby. Trying to be a better reefer. But it comes off to most people that your are standing your grounds until someone proves you wrong.

Try the chemistry forum. Better yet look it up in the search files yourselfs. There's plenty of recorded data on water here.

Im still trying to figure out, In a QT tank, I would want the cleanest possible water I could get.. Isnt that the purpose of a QT tank? To make sure the fish is in tip top shape before you put him in your display. What is the purpose for using it in the QT?

Also, it is healthier for the fish in transfer if it goes from a water source equal to your Display tank. Less stress on the fish. That is of coarse if your display water is good.