conspic guy
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Which is the better looking fish? I'm kind of torn.
Queen or Regal Angelfish
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nanoreefer1000
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What size tank? What tankmates?
conspic guy
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I have a regal now in a 180 FOWLR, along with a Scribbled and Majestic angel and a few other smaller fish. The 3 angels just made it to their 3rd year together and seem to be thriving. I was torn a few years ago as to go with the Regal and those 2 in a 180 or a Queen and those two in a 240. I'd had success with a Regal in the past and went in that direction. I do really like Queens though and maybe one day in the future may do a larger tank and build around one. I was just curious what others thought was the prettier fish between the two.
mattsilvester
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Its really comparing an eagle to a parrot ..... big and bold versus small and delicate (relatively).
Part of the queens majesty, and hence beauty, is its size and presence ..... but putting that aside; if you take a really nice queen (the blue / green variety, in my view) and a really nice regal (the grey / blue belly version, not red sea version, in my view), I would give it to the queen. I prefer the body shape, the "glow", the streamers, and the elegence.
Putting a fully grown adult queen versus a fully grown adult regal - I still give it to the queen.
In the home aquarium however, given the tendancy for the queen's colours to wash out somewhat, versus the regal which tends to retain more of its natural vibrance (probably because as often as not they are in a big SPS reef), then its a very tough call..... and queens vary so much in adult colouration, from almost drab to stunning ...... so if you were to take a random test sample of say 10 queens and a random test sample of say 10 regals, then I think I would give the regals a higher average score..... but the best of the best in each sample, I would give it to the queen.
How's that for a political answer
:lolspin:By the way, the queen angel is my hands down favourite fish - so I am a little biased ..... the day I get 500 gal tank, I'll be buying one
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geaux xman
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how big do regals commonly get in the aquarium?
mattsilvester
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I'm taking a guess, and saying 6-7", if added at a size of about 3".
That's based on fishbase.org max size x 65%: 65% of 10" is 6-7".
To be honest though, I would say they rarely get that big coz most are in reef tanks, where they are probably fed more sparingly than say a mac or french or queen would in a FOWLR. On that basis I would guess a more typical size is 5-6", after quite long time.
That's based on fishbase.org max size x 65%: 65% of 10" is 6-7".
To be honest though, I would say they rarely get that big coz most are in reef tanks, where they are probably fed more sparingly than say a mac or french or queen would in a FOWLR. On that basis I would guess a more typical size is 5-6", after quite long time.
geaux xman
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how big has your regal grown over 3yrs? same question with the scribbled?
i have scribbled x2.. one is about 5.5" and another about 4". both i've had only about 9 months.
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conspic guy
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My Regal is about 6-7 inches now and was about 3.5 inches when I got him 3 + years ago. The Scribbled and Majestic were both 3 inches and the Majestic is about 7 inches now and the Scribbled slightly bigger, maybe 8 inches.
conspic guy
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Yeah, mine seemed to stagnate about 6 months ago. I think he may be just about done.
mattsilvester
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None the less, 3.5 to 7" in 3 years is very good growth - for a fish that supposedly is delicate and hard to keep
Pics pics pics
geaux xman
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Anyone ever known regals or queens to be susceptible to HLLE?
fish042099
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Queens are far more durable, regals are a tad more prettier, but for just a little more beauty, they are ALOT less hardy. Queen angel will be a better choice.
I've seen queens with it back in the day.
mattsilvester
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In the modern hobby, no; and neither should they or any other species be. In theory all angels and tangs are susceptible to HLLE, but with the variety and quality of foods available to the modern aquarist, together with the altogether higher standards of water quality due to LR and efficient skimmers, then HLLE should not be an issue for either.
In summary, if you think you can meet the dietry and environmental requirements of a regal, then HLLE will not be an issue.
Matt, I have to admit that I've had fish recently get HLLE. My tomini in my reef (very mild case) and my asfur in my FO (more significant case). I have yet to determine why these instances happened. Diet? No way... I feed everything under the sun
mattsilvester
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Matt, I have to admit that I've had fish recently get HLLE. My tomini in my reef (very mild case) and my asfur in my FO (more significant case). I have yet to determine why these instances happened. Diet? No way... I feed everything under the sun
Peter - that really surprises me. That I am aware, you keep good water quality and feed well.....
Something that I recall reading quite some time back is that prolonged (prior) copper treatment can be a contributing factor in HLLE. The copper kills the bacteria in the lower gut of the fish; bacteria which helps them break down foods and absorb nutrients. The same article mentioned that housing such fish with other similar species, that have not been exposed to copper can help re-seed the affected fish's gut (because the eat each others poop)..... how relevent this is to your case, in terms of diagnosis or treatment I do not know.
Generally however, HLLE seems to be becoming a trow-back to the big old rough and tumble, high nutirent, poorly fed (in terms of nutrition), FO (no LR) tanks.....
BTW - just looking at your latest youtube offerings ..... can see the Asfur's HLLE - it looks quite well progressed!!! (Note aside, love the personifer pair
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geaux xman
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I am certain heavy or prolonged copper treatment will cause HLLE. I made the mistake of not QT-ing a single fish that I bought from an in-state forum member and introduced oodinium to my tank. The survivors had to get a 2nd round of cupramine(4 weeks). Now my passer and chrysurus is showing heavy HLLE. Both I will remove from my DT. Emp juvie(changing) some. I think pomacanthus angels are more susceptible to HLLE than other angels.
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