Questions to prodibio users

[wdavid]

Any prodibio users, past or present? I'm interested in the nutrient export items the bacteria and carbon source. Considering switching from zeovit because I'll be away for about a month in the far future and figured it's easier to tell my uninterested family to break a few bottles twice a month then to dose xml of each product daily.

I was just wondering how it faired in terms of nutrient export, if it worked with heavy bioload or if it gave you high phosphates or if it was balanced. Plus anything you learned while doing it. Thanks!

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[reefgeezer]

In my experience there are many carbon sources that will produce bacteria needed to manage nitrogen compounds i.e. ammonium, nitrite, & nitrate in even heavily loaded systems. I've never had to add any "probiotic" or bacterial culture product to make it work.

This method reduces nitrogen compounds and phosphates in unbalanced proportions though. In many cases, nitrates have to be added to allow the method to lower phosphate levels. That's easily done and inexpensive though. Other employ a little GFO to make up for the deficiency in the method.

It's simple... once established... Add so many ml of straight vinegar (my favorite), vodka, sugar, and/or etc. daily and so many ml of a homemade nitrate solution every once in a while. When done with dosing pumps and digital lamp timers, it's even automatic.

There are a lot of products on the market that claim to be something special, but in reality are pretty much the same thing.

 

[mcgyvr]

I used them once.. saw no change from them..

What are your current nitrate/phosphate levels?
As stated vinegar,etc... is drop dead simple and highly effective/proven..

 

[wdavid]

In my experience there are many carbon sources that will produce bacteria needed to manage nitrogen compounds i.e. ammonium, nitrite, & nitrate in even heavily loaded systems. I've never had to add any "probiotic" or bacterial culture product to make it work.

This method reduces nitrogen compounds and phosphates in unbalanced proportions though. In many cases, nitrates have to be added to allow the method to lower phosphate levels. That's easily done and inexpensive though. Other employ a little GFO to make up for the deficiency in the method.

It's simple... once established... Add so many ml of straight vinegar (my favorite), vodka, sugar, and/or etc. daily and so many ml of a homemade nitrate solution every once in a while. When done with dosing pumps and digital lamp timers, it's even automatic.

There are a lot of products on the market that claim to be something special, but in reality are pretty much the same thing.

Well the reason I want to use these instead of vodka is that vodka seems to have much less success with phosphates than zeovit or aquaforest. I wasn't sure if prodibio was like that or not so I was asking around. I want to keep things as minimal as possible because things are packed in the sump and stand area. But yeah I may try vinegar instead but it's not like prodibio is so expensive anyway compared to vinegar.

 

[wdavid]

I used them once.. saw no change from them..

What are your current nitrate/phosphate levels?
As stated vinegar,etc... is drop dead simple and highly effective/proven..

Nitrate is below .25 and phos is 0.04~ or lower

Would like to keep these levels if possible

 

[mcgyvr]

Nitrate is below .25 and phos is 0.04~ or lower

Would like to keep these levels if possible

With those levels I might experiment with doing nothing first and see how levels respond..
Aka no zeovit.. no carbon dosing.. nothing..

 

[wdavid]

With those levels I might experiment with doing nothing first and see how levels respond..
Aka no zeovit.. no carbon dosing.. nothing..

Why's that? Just to see how fast my nitrates and phosphates go up so I can dose accordingly?

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