RBTA - No Bubbles

[Kelly]

I recently purchased a small RBTA for my office tank. When I saw it in the store it had beautiful bubbles..now that it's in my tank it has transformed into a long tentacled anemone. It's still a beautiful color and my clown loves it but I sure wish it still had it's bubbles.

Anyone know why an anemone does this??

 

[PiNaPLeX]

From what i've read, no one really knows why this happens. But there is speculation that could be a lighting issue, or water parameters.

 

[ub32965]

here is a good read on RBTA http://www.karensroseanemones.com/whynobubbletips.htm

 

[DMK]

i notice mine bubbles up more when MH are out, w/ just actinics on. some stay bubbly, some not.

 

[Kelly]

Thanks everyone!

 

[ahbroody]

Its not lighting I have posted pictures of my tank with two rbta right next to each other one with bubbles one without. No one really knows. I lean more towards regional issues of collection, but who knows

 

[Chad-Man]

Well if the two that thrive in your aquarium act that way then it has to be universal for all RBTA...... It couldn't be a light issue or a hunger issue or a water flow issue.

 

[DMK]

IME it's lighting. MH on-no bubbles, MH off-bubbles. also feeding enough, water quality, etc, is taken into account, but IMHO i believe lighting affects bubbles most. mine came from a dim lit tank at store w/ 7 RBTAs. all had bubbles. mine had bubbles when i brought it home, once i started w/ acclimation to my MH, bubbles were gone, only there w/ just actinics on.

 

[Ebisan]

Just thought I would post my experience. Bought a very small bta which showed slight bubbles. All the bubbles went away after a month. I would feed every other day. As it grew for the next couple of months, I noticed a few tentacles showing some bubbles. Then I started feeding less and the bubbles never returned. It has since quadrupled in size and split once and I'm feeding both every other day. Still no bubbles.

 

[ahbroody]

Chadman I assume your comment was an insult but i am not sure. More importantly you offered nothing positive in your post or any relevant fact. I will post the picture to prove my point I believe you should now post some pics or relevant facts or come up with another useless post. Put up or shut up as they say
O and to go further no i it dont think it is a light, flow or food issue as well the picture shows them touching, they are on the same rock and well they all eat equally. So please enlighten all of us.
Background the bubble one is from sumatra and commanded a heafty price at the wholesaler, the other is from the recent rbta flood on the market. The wholesalers know the difference and know which does what.

 

[Anemone]

There's lots of theories as to why. Every one of them can be disproven in at least some cases, but appear to be causal in others. Which means there is another factor or factors that we aren't accounting for... genetics, collection depth/location, whatever.

My clones have bubble tips in some people's tanks, and not in others. I have never been able to figure out a workable hypothesis.

FWIW,
Kevin

 

[Chad-Man]

Ahbroody, calm down.. Don't go all Rodney King on me.......

I just think that its amazing that there is a water volume of 332,500,000 cubic miles on Earth and because you have 80 gallons of it locked up in your house, whatever happens in that 80 gallon system is constant throughout the world. You have two rbta and they act differently, WOW.... So if I get two rbta they will act exactly like yours, then we can swap the ones that act the same and we can each have two rbta in our tanks that act in the same exact manner. Okay I'm off to my LFS.........

P.S. All I was trying to get across is that they animals and you cannot always exactly predict their behavior.... It might have been sarcastic but it was also 4:30 in the morning.

 

[ahbroody]

The point I am trying to make is that NO ONE KNOWS WHY. No one has been able to come up with a concrete theory and been able to replicate it. I was venturing a theory based on concrete evidence that I have which is based on my tank which does the same thing everyday. The rbta with bubble tips always and I mean ALWAYS has bubble tips. The anemone does not change when lighting is changed or feeding vary or anything else. As someone who has access to wholesalers, they seem to know which rbtas are worth more because of the region they come from. You will also notice a color variation. The color variation also seems to be based on collection region. The wholesaler discussed that nems from this region generally always had nice bubbles where others didnt. To give you an example the nem was 3 times the regular bta price. Just as clowns color etc vary with region so do nems seem to. You help make my point by pointing out the amount of water in showing how vast the region is and how this creates variations. My theory is region has a large factor on color and tips but that is my theory. Cheers and I never hold grudges its the internet.

By the way i didnt go rodney that was mild . You were the one who took the shot at me first so dont sit back and now tell me to calm down. Remeber if you had not taken a shot at me i would not even have replied to you.

 

[Chad-Man]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6707497#post6707497 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ahbroody
By the way i didnt go rodney that was mild

LOL... Everything else aside, you pose a good agruement. I just wouldn't be so quick to dismiss lighting and current issues.

 

[catdoc]

I have 2 tanks set up, each has a daughter from the same parent and one bubbles, one doesn't. FWIW, the btas (a green and a rose) are bubbled in my 29 gallon mixed reef that has a dsb and is lit by a single 250W 14K MH. Just a HOB skimmer and a couple of powerheads for water movement, no sump, sporadic dosing of additives and tank is fed 2 to 3 times a week. It's also in a room that has a lot of natural light, fwiw.

The non-bubbling btas (3 individuals: 2 came from the same parent as the bubbling one at work, 1 from a different source) are in my 125gal, bare-bottom, mostly sps tank that is lit by dual 400W 10K MH + 220W VHO actinics. I'm more consistent on this tank with dosing additives, top-off, more water movement, very large sump, much better skimmer. I don't see a difference in the bubbling if the MH are on or off, just long tentacles all the time.

Another observation in my tanks: the bubbling anemones are smaller than the non-bubbling ones. The bubbled rbta and gbta are about 4 to 6 inches across, the non-bubbling rbtas (even the ones from the shared parents) range from 6 to 12 inches.

 

[SDguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6709505#post6709505 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by catdoc
I have 2 tanks set up, each has a daughter from the same parent and one bubbles, one doesn't. FWIW, the btas (a green and a rose) are bubbled in my 29 gallon mixed reef that has a dsb and is lit by a single 250W 14K MH. Just a HOB skimmer and a couple of powerheads for water movement, no sump, sporadic dosing of additives and tank is fed 2 to 3 times a week. It's also in a room that has a lot of natural light, fwiw.

The non-bubbling btas (3 individuals: 2 came from the same parent as the bubbling one at work, 1 from a different source) are in my 125gal, bare-bottom, mostly sps tank that is lit by dual 400W 10K MH + 220W VHO actinics. I'm more consistent on this tank with dosing additives, top-off, more water movement, very large sump, much better skimmer. I don't see a difference in the bubbling if the MH are on or off, just long tentacles all the time.

Another observation in my tanks: the bubbling anemones are smaller than the non-bubbling ones. The bubbled rbta and gbta are about 4 to 6 inches across, the non-bubbling rbtas (even the ones from the shared parents) range from 6 to 12 inches.

I have similar observations. My one RBTA has bulbs (though never perfectly round). Always has. 250W DE 14K phoenix in PFO hood. DSB. Mixed reef (very few SPS). It is only about 6" across. Inconsistent dosing (my bad). Gets fed 1X week raw shrimp.

 

[818]

Everyone has opinions but no one will ever know :lol:

Dont get me wrong but no one knows??!! Anemone game me an RBTA. Long tentacle type from his tank to mine. Split and moved away form the clone and one has bubble tips and the other doesnt? Thats crazy? I dont get it?