Reef aquarium on a budget

Kaimana969

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Hi everyone. Still deciding on the set up for a reef aquarium. We are looking at a 120 gallon tank with a bean animal overflow to keep both fish and corals. Since we are new to saltwater, we don't want to go crazy with the most expensive equipment, but still use quality items which we won't need to upgrade for a while. I've been looking at Neptune Aquatics in San Jose, Ca to plumb the tank but it looks like this could be a 10K - 15 K project. I am a bit skeptical of getting a used tank due to leaks. We'd need to set up a 6 stage RO/DI unit in the garage (we don't have access to a water pipe in there so it would have to come off of the hose).

Any suggestions on how to approach this or recommendations?
 
I'm kind of confused on what questions you are really asking?

Of course I will always say that one should plumb their own tank so they know how to repair it when needed,etc... plus you feel like you really accomplish something then and care more for it..

All things aquarium even plumbing are pretty darn easy.. but can be scary for some that haven't done it before..

This board is very helpful and can certainly walk you through whatever if you get stuck..

You also do not need a sump to have a successful tank.. But it can certainly be a great place to hide equipment..

But you most certainly do not need to spend 10-15K to get a 120G tank w/sump/equipment..

I think I maybe had $800-1000 total including all equipment/used tank,etc.. in my 120G 6ft tank with 40B sump.. Of course I also drilled it myself, make the coast-coast overflow/bean plumbing,etc..
Jebao DC12000 return pump, eshopps skimmer, aqueon pro heaters, reef angel controller,etc...

At least you know you want bean ("be an animal" to be specific) but bean works too..
Its the best hands down..
 
Not sure if you have preference on tanks. You could purchase a new tank from lfs(aquarium depot in citrus heights). Purchase plumbing at home depot or Lowe's. Used equipments Craigslist or here(R.C)
 
Check out the build thread for my 120g tank (the link address is in my signature at the bottom of this post. It's only 6 months old and I spent about $3000. And you don't need a 6 stage RO/DI, but that isn't a huge upgrade from a basic RO/DI.

mcgyvr is absolutely right about doing the set and plumbing yourself. Unless you plan to just spend more and more money to let other people look after it. In which case I'll just say "have fun".
 
I'm in the process of doing a 120 gallon build. So far I've spent about 400.00. That includes the tank, lights, stand, sump. I'm going skimmer less with this set up and as low tech has possible.
 
Doing a 180g with 75 gal sump.

180g tank + stand + sump + Canopy + Skimmer + return pump = 250$
Sand = 200$
Rock = Free
Plumbing = 75$ (overbought and will return the rest)
x3 Chinese LED Black Box Lights= 90$ a piece x 3 = 270$

So currently------------------------------------------------------

720$

still getting ATO and pump, power heads, Heaters and heater controller... maybe something else here and there... Not too bad and should be able to keep it under 1k.
 
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I'm kind of confused on what questions you are really asking?

I guess I'm asking how to set up a reef aquarium without spending a ton of money. I understand that doing the plumbing on my own certainly would help, although that is a stressful thought. But also where on earth people are getting equipment for such cheap prices, without it being a bunch of junk. Also, what is absolutely necessary and what can be add ons later after the reef is established? Do you really need all those reactors?
 
Really all you need is a tank, stand, live rock, lights, powerheads, and a heater. Even a sump isn't a "necessity", although it does make things much easier.

Reactors, skimmer, etc can be later addons.
 
Even if I didn't do a sump initially, I would still drill the tank, put in bulkheads, and short stubby pipes with shutoffs so I could add a sump later on.

It's much easier to drill the tank now, then after its established.
 
I guess I'm asking how to set up a reef aquarium without spending a ton of money. I understand that doing the plumbing on my own certainly would help, although that is a stressful thought. But also where on earth people are getting equipment for such cheap prices, without it being a bunch of junk. Also, what is absolutely necessary and what can be add ons later after the reef is established? Do you really need all those reactors?

Personally.. I have never used reactors. Back when I had my big 200+ tank I did have a doser. Personally I think some people go a bit overboard, or even they have the money to spend while I don't. Tank stand canopy etc combo can be bought on craigslist fairly cheap... Talk the person down. Skimmer can be found there or a local page on FB. Thennnnnnnnnn you have lighting. I use led Chinese black boxes. As good as a radion? no. But does it do the job and grow beautiful coral? Yes! So ultimately do your research and scower the internetzzz for good deals. They come with time and effort. Don't hesitate to ask any other questions.

As for plumbing... it looks a lot harder than it is. This is only my 2nd tank that has a sump that I am building now which I am going to plumb this weekend. It really is not that hard (last tank I plumbed was in 2009 so a while ago).
 
I guess I'm asking how to set up a reef aquarium without spending a ton of money. I understand that doing the plumbing on my own certainly would help, although that is a stressful thought. But also where on earth people are getting equipment for such cheap prices, without it being a bunch of junk. Also, what is absolutely necessary and what can be add ons later after the reef is established? Do you really need all those reactors?

Minimum and all one really needs
1-tank (for a 120G you can find some for $100-200 all day on craigslist usually)
2-rock (dry saves quite a bit..roughly 1lb per gallon is a good starting point) (usually $2-3lb if that)
3-sand (if you want)
4-heater (if living in an area where your room doesn't stay at or near 78 degrees all year long) (2 x 250W is usually plenty for a 120G tank)
5-powerheads (could be as little as $80-$175 or so)
6-salt ($50 or so a bucket)
7-water (I'd suggest $150-$200 for a good RO/DI and make your own)
8-Light (if fish a cheap fluorescent will work just fine.. fish don't need light) ($10 and up.. $200 for 2 x 165W chinese black box LEDs which are low cost but work just fine)
9-Auto top off (not absolutely needed but sure is great to have vs manually topping off each day with freshwater) ($30-$100 or so)
10-testing kits.. $50-100 or so (Salinity,Ammonia, nitrate is really all you need to start.. I'd recommend a cheapish refractometer vs a hydrometer but even they can be fine provided its calibrated or the offset is known from a known good device)

All that can easily be acquired for $600-750 or so give or tank

If you have a sump you need
11-return pump ($100 or so)
12-A sump of sorts.. A 40b tank is $40 during the $1 a gallon sale but again requires "handy" skills to create baffles.. ($100-$300 or so)
13-plumbing/a few pieces of glass or an overflow box $100-200 or so

After that its all up to you

For decent/low cost return pumps check out Jebao DC/DCT/DCS,etc.. series. (You should be able to get one for $100 or less)
In general you want one rated 5-10x your display tank size and that would be the rating after head loss (height you are pumping the water plus some for friction losses,etc..)

Then you can go from there and all of this can be added later
All of these are absolutely not needed but can help for one reason or another
-Skimmers
-Reactors (carbon/gfo/biopellets)
-Dosing pumps(needed with corals when consumption of alk/cal/mag exceeds what water changes are replenishing)
-refugiums
-turf scrubbers
-aquarium controllers (automate tasks like lights/heaters,etc...)
and more..

Sounds like you have a lot of basic learning to do..
Check out the stickies about the "newbie start here" or whatever its called and see if you can wade through the mess there..
Or even better check out the BRS (bulk reef supply) 52 weeks of reefing videos.. And watch..watch..learn..learn..
 
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I guess I'm asking how to set up a reef aquarium without spending a ton of money. I understand that doing the plumbing on my own certainly would help, although that is a stressful thought. But also where on earth people are getting equipment for such cheap prices, without it being a bunch of junk. Also, what is absolutely necessary and what can be add ons later after the reef is established? Do you really need all those reactors?

I run four reef tanks. The most expensive piece of equipment I have in my sea horse tank is a skimmer. My lights are cheap t5s. I don't run reactors, I don't run fancy sensors. You can, absolutely, run a stunning tank low tech. Yes you may have to be willing to mix water a little more often but you don't need thousands of dollars in equipment for things to work. There are several members on here with huge tanks, beautiful corals and no skimmers, reactors, nada.
 
Sounds like you have a lot of basic learning to do..
Check out the stickies about the "newbie start here" or whatever its called and see if you can wade through the mess there..
Or even better check out the BRS (bulk reef supply) 52 weeks of reefing videos.. And watch..watch..learn..learn..


Actually I've been on here a while, read over the sticky multiple times , watched the BRS videos on their 220 gallon build and read lots of books. But it still didn't give me tips on what was absolutely necessary, what a reasonable price for equipment was. I could buy really expensive equipment, but do I really need to? What is too much for a skimmer, return pump, RO/DI setup etc? As a newbie, I feel like I'm going to get shafted by the LFS when they see me walk in the door.


But thank you to everyone for the tips. They are really helpful. 😊
 
Let's just say a quality made used tank usually lasts a lot longer than a cheaply made new setup. There is nothing wrong with a use tank. My last tank was used and had been wet and dry for a good 20 years and it never leaked.


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Actually I've been on here a while, read over the sticky multiple times , watched the BRS videos on their 220 gallon build and read lots of books. But it still didn't give me tips on what was absolutely necessary, what a reasonable price for equipment was. I could buy really expensive equipment, but do I really need to? What is too much for a skimmer, return pump, RO/DI setup etc? As a newbie, I feel like I'm going to get shafted by the LFS when they see me walk in the door.


But thank you to everyone for the tips. They are really helpful. 😊


Why not just go as low tech as possible with a moderate sized tank. Such as a 75 gallon with a HOB filter. You can replace the filter media (after it has removed all the dust from adding your substrate) with a bag of denitrate rock. See how things progress for the first year and if you decide to add more high tech equipment and more demanding fish and corals you can add equipment. At least you won't have to sink a ton of money into the setup until you figure out if it's what you really want to do. You don't have to start with a sump or a drilled tank, or anything that's going to cost you a lot of money. And NO the LFS is not going to tell you these things. They are out to make money just as many sites designed to market equipment are. Nothing wrong with that, but you most certainly do not need it if you're willing to do a few extra water changes.
 
My 120 SPS dominant reef has a 40b as a sump. I use a eheim 1262 as the return pump. I recently upgraded to 2 x Gyre 250's for in tank circulation but before that I used 4 x Koralia 1500gph powerheads. I have a pair of 200w heaters in the sump, and use 2 x AI Sol Blues for lighting. As for "extras" - I use a reef octopus 150sss as a skimmer, a brs reactor for activated carbon and a TLF 150 for GFO.

I built my own stand - depending on your skill level and what you want it to look like, a stand for a 120 can cost as little as $100 for 2x4's and plywood, or as much as you want. Mine is solid Cherry and so cost me a bit more but it looks like it belongs in a living room as a piece of fine furniture.

Plumb it yourself - PVC is cheap and nearly foolproof. Plus, you did it yourself!

You can easily get up and running for well less than $2000, I could probably do it using all new items for less than $1200. Add the extras down the road.
 
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