Reefkeeping, Oh the Irony

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I posted this rant in an ongoing thread on the Responsible Reefkeeping forum, but I would also be interested in responses from the masses who - for whatever reason - avoid that particular area of the site.
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let's be pragmatic...

The marine ornamental trade is - in essence - a for-profit exploitation of a priceless natural resource to feed the superficial whims of consumer masses. We should not fool ourselves into thinking there is anything 'good' about this trade from the perspective of natural habitats.

Education is not a justifiable excuse for supporting the trade. There are too many less destructive sources of awareness like public aquariums, documentaries on television, etc.

Businesses involved in the trade are there for profit, not ethics. At the end of the day, business owners will exploit reef life to pay the rent, period. Many of them have to live in denial because they might have difficulty looking in the mirror if they chose to face the inconvenient realities of their chosen profession. No amount of denial, deception, or misinformation changes this reality.

We are all hypocrites by merely participating and supporting the marine ornamental trade. Humans often claim to cherish or value things when in reality they wish to possess and consequently exploit. The very least we can do is stop kidding ourselves and show our peers and the businesses we frequent that trade reform and sustainability are a high priority.

If the number of animals killed by this trade was an instantly updated number on the internet(that's an idea) we would all have trouble looking in the mirror and talking about the next fish or coral we can't wait to consume.

I myself have killed countless animals since my first salt water tank was set up in 1983. In 2005 I experienced a shift in perspective that has lead me to step back. I have not bought any reef life in a few years now, and cannot see doing so until I find a way to do it more responsibly, and in a way that gives back to the natural habitats we claim to cherish but obviously exploit.

Conservation and sustainability should be much more prominent subjects on this board and in every LFS. Wouldn't it be better if your LFS and the rest of the trade was honest about its impact and maybe chose to devote a portion of profits directly towards reef conservation efforts?

Every time we hit that checkout counter at the LFS or the checkout page on the internet, we should remind ourselves of the uncomfortable realities of our behavior. If we choose to support the trade and exploit this resource, fine, but I think we should all stop kidding ourselves/eachother and pretending that we do it because we cherish/value reef life.

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We become reefkeepers because we claim to fall in love with reef life, but if we truly valued natural reef habitats, wouldn't we seek to preserve them rather than possess and exploit? What does this contradiction say about us? How many of us are honest enough to face the uncomfortable truths about the marine ornamental industry, and the growing list of animals we're responsible for destroying in our quest for an ideal captive reef?

More importantly how can we own up to our actions and make up for the inherent irony of our decision to support the trade?

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I wholeheartedly agree. I have been at a crossroads the past few months, and I can not justify this hobby to myself. I have come to the conclusion that humans, myself included, are selfish. I want this, so I will have it. I have the power to do that. It is a shame that our hobby involves lives though. When a model car breaks, no life is lost. We are basically participating is something similar to slavery, but with lower life forms. We take them for our enjoyment. Every time I have a fish die, I can not help but think that if this fish had never been collected, it would still be alive. The boxes we keep these fish in are preposterously small as well. Even a chromis in a 210 gallon is overstocked. Think about the area this fish covers in it's lifetime. Let alone something like a tang or an angelfish.

I'm going to get a little philosophical here.

I have also been wondering what makes one life more valuable than the next. In theory, they should all be equal. But would you give up your life if you could bring those buckets of dead fish above back? Probably not. Would you give up the life of a person you have never met, on the other side of the world? would you give up their life for 1000 fish? 10,000? 100,000?

I have a deep love and respect for the oceans and the life they hold. I am in college studying to be a marine biologist. I hope someday to not have a reef tank, and instead be able to dive on the reefs instead. Think about the progress we could make if everyone took all the money they spent on their tanks, and donated it to a reef conservation program. Thats probably about $10,000 from me alone.

However, I personally have learned very much from my tanks. I understand interactions between organisms, their environmental requirements, etc. I know why too much CO2 in the oceans is a bad thing. I know what causes coral bleaching. I know what corals can tolerate, and what they can not. In three years for my senior thesis, I plan to do some educational research and experiments involving my tanks, or new ones I will set up specifically for the purpose. After my college years I hope to focus on breeding many fish species which are not currently aquacultured, to help stop the demand on the oceans. As far as I know, no tangs, anthias, few angelfish, etc are captive bread. It is basically clownfish, some gobies, some dottybacks, maybe a few other misc fish.

But, alas, most people's tanks are not this useful. The are around for a few years, enough time to take a few more lbs of live rock out of the oceans, kill more fish, corals, and anemones, and then be forgotten.

We are participating in "the rape of the natural world".
 
Good thread.

I agree with you to the extent that steps must be taken to insure that in our maddening desire to collect the best specimens of this and that kind, we do not, in the process, destroy a whole another world. Educating the masses, stricter laws on collection, and creation of more protected zones are just some of the things that may be implemented in order to give our reefs a fighting chance of survival. I also think, however, that it's naive to expect from the general public and even the scientific community the kind of behavior you'd expect from a responsible reefkeeper, though I think the term "responsible reefkeeper" is in itself an oxymoron.

I think a balance must be found where the human need to "learn" and "educate" itself can be achieved without having to significantly damage the very object upon whose survival the future of this planet may very well depend. Ornamental fish now being a billion dollar industry, it is unrealistic, and even more unethical to try and limit the means by which hundreds and thousands of people earn their living.

We may sit here in our air conditioned living rooms and enjoy the serenity and beauty of our tanks, and in the process we may begin to realize the cost of this beauty in our homes not in dollar terms but on a more grandeur scale, and we may then sit up and write up a thread on Reef Central about the hobby being unethical and all the negatives associated with it. But the reality of life for poor men maybe in the carribean, maybe somewhere far off the coast of Southern India, maybe somewhere in Fiji or maybe somewhere near Samatra, whose survival depends on collecting a few fish a day so that eight hungry mouths sitting in a straw hut, waiting to be fed for that day, can be fed with the money he's made by selling off his catch, is an entirely different story. Trust me, I have seen it.

So do we take away their sole means of survival by banning collection in certain areas, declaring them reef sanctuaries etc or do we sacrifice the poor man's present for our future? There are no easy answers, but I will be pondering this as I head over to my LFS to check out these wild caught Moorish Idols. The owner tells me he's received about 20 of them and if I bought two I could have another one for half the price :p
 
to be clear...

to be clear...

I swat mosquitoes and I eat meat. The destruction of life is not something that can realistically be avoided. Even vegans and Buddhists kill microscopic life by the millions.

Nature is neither cruel nor kind, it is simply indifferent. Sometimes the water buffalo and her calf get stuck in mud and are slowly eaten alive by lions, and sometimes the lion cubs are trampled by buffalo or slaughtered by competing males. It's a war for survival out there and suffering is unavoidable. But as the top of the food chain and the most influential organism on the planet I think we need to be pragmatic, act responsibly and sustainably, and work to promote biodiversity.

What I have trouble with is the denial/hypocrisy that is rampant in this hobby, and the non-sustainable exploitation for pleasure of a priceless natural resource. I just wish hobbyists and LFS's would be honest with themselves and each other. I think that's a good first step towards a more responsible MO trade.

If reef life was invasive and at plague proportions I'd buy reef-jerky. I do support the culling of crown-of-thorns starfish for example, since they are at plague proportions and are wiping out corals in Australian waters and reducing biodiversity. (but we probably caused that plague due to nutrient runnoff in Australia, etc.)
 
great feedback, thanks all for taking the time to contribute.

I agree we cannot simply erase the sole means of survival for indigenous south pacific people, but a more responsible and sustainable approach is needed for resource utilization, or else that means of survival and the resource itself will disappear eventually regardless.
 
I'll look at that thread. I'm assuming its examples of problems which no doubt, many are true, but despite it's shortcomings, if there's no "theory" then there's going to be no practice. Has to start somewhere.

The fact is the industry exists and it's not going to go away. A small number of people saying it's "bad" and refusing to participate in it won't change it when there are a constantly growing number of people who do. If anything, there is more captive breeding of aquarium livestock going on now than ever before, fueled solely by the increased demand. In a way, growing participation in the hobby can decrease reliance on wild collected livestock.

As sad as that picture you posted is, two buckets of dead fish is nothing compared to the number of incidentals that die in the nets of commerical fishing boats. It doesn't make it "ok," but there is an issue of perception at play.
 
Would the above buckets had less impact on you if they were smelt? Why is it worse to collect a VERY few colorful fish than it is to collect HUGE amounts of less colorful fish for eating? The truth is the aquarium trade has muchless impact on the oceans than commercial fishing which is stripping the oceans at a rate they cannot replenish. I eat fish so I can not say the Clown in my aquarium is worse off than the Tuna in a can in my cabinet!
 
I agree, for the most part. Would I rather purchase a tank-bred fish than a wild-caught fish? Absolutely. I've been giving this much thought recently, and I wish there were a way to know--for sure--whether a fish at any given LFS was actually tank-bred.

I agree with Mark75, in regards to commercial fishing for food, as well. The savagery with which sharks are being hunted and killed as well. These are all just symptoms of a bigger problem: mankind is selfish and arrogant. We are selfish enough to think that we deserve whatever we want, despite the cost, and we are arrogant enough to believe that we can make it all better.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10675775#post10675775 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by seapug
I'll look at that thread. I'm assuming its examples of problems which no doubt, many are true, but despite it's shortcomings, if there's no "theory" then there's going to be no practice. Has to start somewhere.

Everyone should see that forum. It's dedicated to the industry behind the hobby, and you'll see a LONG history of failure by MAC there. Most recently a reorganization and a new Director of MAC has been addressed. MAC Interim Director Thread, An open letter of request to MAC on Indo/Phil by F. Cruz, There are many more as well.




<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10675775#post10675775 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by seapug
As sad as that picture you posted is, two buckets of dead fish is nothing compared to the number of incidentals that die in the nets of commerical fishing boats. It doesn't make it "ok," but there is an issue of perception at play.

The picture was for impact, yes. I'm aware that the MO industry is a small part, but it's our part. I'm not trying to downplay the significant impacts of commercial fishing, agricultural runnof etc.
 
First of all, let me say that I completely agree with the notion of moving towards sustainable practices and, even more importantly, moving towards good captive breeding/aquaculture programs. However, I do have a couple alternative views:

-I don't agree with the notion that we should be considering between preserving the natural resources of this planet and dealing with out guilt over how people in third world nations are living. Placing environmental regulations in protected areas, while often hypocritical, is essential despite how it might affect the livelihoods of people who depend upon exploiting the resources to make a living. Leave it unchecked and what happens? People will devour the resources to ensure their own survival and prosperity. But what about future generations? How are they to make a living without those resources? It just doesn't work. It is a very unfortunate reality that many people in areas next to reefs must take so much from the reefs to eek out a living. However, we must strive towards sustainable practices or else we are doomed.

-Reefbuddha, you have many good points regarding the rampant hypocrisy in this hobby. I myself cannot deny that I am part of the problem. Yet, at the same time, I feel that your confrontational approach is not really going to gain much headway. To relate my own experiences, I have increasingly been going towards minimizing my impact as much as I can. First of all, I have not bought a fish in over a year. I'm only really interested in three types of fish in this hobby, clowns, seahorses and bangaii cardinalfish, all of which can be found as captive bred specimens. Luckily, it is rather easy and commonplace to obtain captive propagated corals from fellow reefers and even LFS stores. In reality, I've spent most of my time and money on equipment and diy'ing rather than buying new livestock. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back here, but I do feel I stand out from the people that rush in and try to fill their tanks with as many fish they can squeeze regardless of proper care or ethical collection. As I see it there are two types in this hobby: those that are engrossed in the complex nature of their livestock and spend hours researching before they buy something and those that just want some pretty fishies in their living room and go out and try and find the very easiest and quickest way to accomplish this. IMO, we should be encouraging the former and discouraging the latter. It does no good to alienate everyone who likes reef keeping when you're striving towards more responsibility and ethical practices. The fact is that people would much rather hear about where they can find livestock that has been ethically propagated than about how horrible they are for having an aquarium. Personally, I'm not going to stop reefing. I'd really just like to an end to the more irresponsible practices.
 
"mankind is selfish and arrogant. We are selfish enough to think that we deserve whatever we want, despite the cost, and we are arrogant enough to believe that we can make it all better."

Is it not arrogance to feel that you can sum up mankind in a sentence? As far as selfishness goes, I'd agree with that one to an extent. But if you think about it, what animal on earth is not selfish? As I see it, we just can't afford to continue on ignorant and stupid paths if we want to keep on the selfish path of prosperity.
 
Do you honestly believe that public aquariums are a better means of education than this hobby? More breakthroughs have been made by "hobbiests" than public aquariums.


Also, your average public aquarium kills more fish than 10,000 hobbiests.
 
i hearby vow to not get anything else live from the wild. Any more corals i get will be aquacultured/frags. Any more fish i get will be tank raised or tank bred. And i will do my best to look for tank bred invertebrate. It is possible, i hear people saying: my cleaner shrimp has eggs or my hermits bred etc.

And vegetarian stuff, we are omnivores, our stomachs, digestive tracks and the vitamins nutrients we need come from BOTH vegetables and meat. We were made to eat meat, and thats what im gonna do.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10675826#post10675826 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mark75
Would the above buckets had less impact on you if they were smelt? Why is it worse to collect a VERY few colorful fish than it is to collect HUGE amounts of less colorful fish for eating? The truth is the aquarium trade has muchless impact on the oceans than commercial fishing which is stripping the oceans at a rate they cannot replenish. I eat fish so I can not say the Clown in my aquarium is worse off than the Tuna in a can in my cabinet!

Exactly. Anyone who has even seen a FRACTION OF A FRACTION what by-catch adds up to would laugh at those two tiny buckets. Infact, i'd say theyre even less than a drop in a bucket :)
 
Hey ReefBhudda, what kind of wrasse is in your bucket on the right? :lol:

Sorry for the tasteless humor, couldn't resist. In all seriousness, based on what people have posted, it's pretty obvious most people on this board are pretty well aware of these issues.
 
Yeah, I'm aware. I see where you're coming from, but I'm not going to stop buying anything gleaned from the ocean.
 
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