Reefkeeping, Oh the Irony
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LobsterOfJustice
Recovering Detritophobe
We were having a good discussion, and then a few people who disagree came in and ruined it for everyone.
All I ask is that you actually read my posts earlier in this thread. I KNOW I AM A HYPOCRITE by having these animals. I'm not going to explain this all again, it was in my first post! But apparently you can read anything longer than a few lines.
rtstrat, let me convert this into your language: YEAH FOOOOOOOOOOOOTBALL BEER TESTOSTERONE!!!!!
...."And this is my daughter's room. We can't open the door, or she might come out. I slide her beef jerky under the door, and tell her she is beautiful and I love her. She is happy and safe in there, nothing can hurt her..."
All I ask is that you actually read my posts earlier in this thread. I KNOW I AM A HYPOCRITE by having these animals. I'm not going to explain this all again, it was in my first post! But apparently you can read anything longer than a few lines.
rtstrat, let me convert this into your language: YEAH FOOOOOOOOOOOOTBALL BEER TESTOSTERONE!!!!!
...."And this is my daughter's room. We can't open the door, or she might come out. I slide her beef jerky under the door, and tell her she is beautiful and I love her. She is happy and safe in there, nothing can hurt her..."
LobsterOfJustice
Recovering Detritophobe
Don't you have an american nazi party meeting to go to?
Yeah, you guys keep telling yourselves that people who respect life are PETA freaks and hippies. That way you can stay in your comfortable little world.
Hey, football, beer and testosterone ROCK!!! By the way, we were having lots of nice discussions in our board here, you're the one that came in and ruined it. There is a forum on here for wierdos like yourself, stay in it.
If you are getting bored with that, you can go here , or here , you'll fit in just as nicely.
If you are getting bored with that, you can go here , or here , you'll fit in just as nicely.
LobsterOfJustice
Recovering Detritophobe
Nobody made you read or participate in this thread. It by no means ruined the reef discussion forum.
vessxpress1
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Hey RT...
:idea:
undermine >verb 1 erode the base or foundation of (a rock formation). 2 dig or excavate beneath (a building or fortification) so as to make it collapse. 2 weaken gradually or insidiously an idea (or hobby)
Just bothered me. You're good to go now. :thumbsup:
:idea:
undermine >verb 1 erode the base or foundation of (a rock formation). 2 dig or excavate beneath (a building or fortification) so as to make it collapse. 2 weaken gradually or insidiously an idea (or hobby)
Just bothered me. You're good to go now. :thumbsup:
Musho3210
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i dont think reef central is the right audience. Most people here try their best at providing the best habitat for their animals, we treat them humanely (this is MOST of us, not ALL) and we care for them, we mourne their deaths and we replace them but the replacement gets the same loving care that the old one did.
There are probably double or TRIPLE the amount of people who keep saltwater fish inhumanely, over stock, use feeder fish, keep killing and replacing without knowing why it died in the first place, torturing, using fish to cycle. These are stupid people, thats what i hate, i hate stupid people. Sure we humane smart reefers have lost a few fish/inverts here and there but we do our best not to. The inhumane ones are the ones you should be pestering since they are depleting our reefs a lot faster than we humane ones are.
There are probably double or TRIPLE the amount of people who keep saltwater fish inhumanely, over stock, use feeder fish, keep killing and replacing without knowing why it died in the first place, torturing, using fish to cycle. These are stupid people, thats what i hate, i hate stupid people. Sure we humane smart reefers have lost a few fish/inverts here and there but we do our best not to. The inhumane ones are the ones you should be pestering since they are depleting our reefs a lot faster than we humane ones are.
lobster, no no you have it all wrong, its..............YEAH FOOOOOOOOOOOOTBALL BEER TESTOSTERONE, FISHHHHHHHHHHHHH, CORALLLLLL!!!!! i dont know what your trying to get at, but my whole point has been, i understand were your coming from, yes i read your post buddy, and all along my point has been that RC is not your place to rant about your negitive feelings about reef keeping, especially not this forum, you two can goto responsible reefkeeping and sit there and rant about how our hobby is going to destroy the whole wolrd.
LobsterOfJustice
Recovering Detritophobe
Well well, doesnt this explain something.
Peter Eichler
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10676662#post10676662 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by King-Kong
Exactly. Anyone who has even seen a FRACTION OF A FRACTION what by-catch adds up to would laugh at those two tiny buckets. Infact, i'd say theyre even less than a drop in a bucket
The difference is most of those commercial fish are being caught in the open ocean. As of now the open ocean isn't being destroyed from overfishing. The fish populations may be going down and it may be causing other problems. However, cyanide fishing, which is quite common for reef fish collection for this hobby, is destroying reefs. There's help from a host of other sources, but to think this hobby is anything but destructive to natural reefs is naive. Also, last I checked, two wrongs don't make a right.
I don't like the way the hobby is sometimes and I'd like to see reform. I realize I'm part of the problem just by being in it and I can live with that. The people that bug me are the ones that have blatant disregard for livestock or have somehow convinced themselves that this hobby isn't destructive to natural resources.
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kev apsley
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if you purchase captive grown corals and fish and donate $ to a charitable reef organization then you prolly justify your means
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