Salty150
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How many Regal Angels have you acclimated or put through TTM?
Also, the plastic tubing he has in there seems to be too small around, and too long - that is why the Regal is trying to hide under the heater.
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How many Regal Angels have you acclimated or put through TTM?
Also, the plastic tubing he has in there seems to be too small around, and too long - that is why the Regal is trying to hide under the heater.
UncleSalt
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I still asked you a question and you haven't responded! If I use white vinegar and water, how long does it have to dry before I should move him over? I don't mind moving him - I can even go buy a 10G tank from Petsmart right down the road.
ThRoewer
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I would not bother putting a regal angel through TTM. If they get ich I treat them with hyposalinity. Of more concern with regals are flukes and that the fish eats.
Seemingly my Sumatra Regal pair has become tired of mysis. But they go nuts over flakes and pellets.
I'm still debating whether or not to get another little Maldives Regal. The one I have has doubled in size since I got it last year. It's now almost the size of my Bali Regal.
The only thing holding me back is the fact that I really don't have a tank large enough for another pair...
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Seemingly my Sumatra Regal pair has become tired of mysis. But they go nuts over flakes and pellets.
I'm still debating whether or not to get another little Maldives Regal. The one I have has doubled in size since I got it last year. It's now almost the size of my Bali Regal.
The only thing holding me back is the fact that I really don't have a tank large enough for another pair...
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UncleSalt
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So my little guy has taken a turn for the worse this morning. I moved him into a 10G QT and he was fine all day and was fine up until I went to bed around 1AM.
This morning however, he was in the corner breathing heavy. He had a white stringy poop hanging off of him and I suspected flukes. I dosed my Prazipro and quite quickly a started seeing more quite strings come out of him.
Everything is perfect. 0 Ammonia, 0 nitrates/nitrites, pH is good as well. Salinity is 1.025. Temperature is a solid 76 degrees.
He was acting this way before Prazi - he appears slightly better, still laying on his side breathing heavy. I have a MP10 and an air bubbler in the tank.
After Prazi, he has continued to have a decent number of long white strings coming off of him - I can see them floating in the water. He has a small amount fixated to him at the current time. I considered a freshwater dip, but didn't want to stress him further. Prazi appears to be doing its job, and the guy doesn't seem to want to give up.
Any thoughts?
This morning however, he was in the corner breathing heavy. He had a white stringy poop hanging off of him and I suspected flukes. I dosed my Prazipro and quite quickly a started seeing more quite strings come out of him.
Everything is perfect. 0 Ammonia, 0 nitrates/nitrites, pH is good as well. Salinity is 1.025. Temperature is a solid 76 degrees.
He was acting this way before Prazi - he appears slightly better, still laying on his side breathing heavy. I have a MP10 and an air bubbler in the tank.
After Prazi, he has continued to have a decent number of long white strings coming off of him - I can see them floating in the water. He has a small amount fixated to him at the current time. I considered a freshwater dip, but didn't want to stress him further. Prazi appears to be doing its job, and the guy doesn't seem to want to give up.
Any thoughts?
UncleSalt
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Before we went to bed, I put some flakes in there. He eat those, ate mysis, did NOT eat NLS pellets this time....and that was the last time he ate.
UncleSalt
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Yes. All research I could find said they were safe together. Copper is the one you can't mix. He was this way before any of those two doses and the firefish in there with him has been unaffected.
Salty150
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Damn, wish some of the other pros on here were on and would chime in...
I guess you have a few choices...
Since it started before you added Prazi - you can just let the Prazi do it's thing and see if the fish can make it...
OR...
You can do a 50% water change, bring the salinity down to 1.024, add a little more Prime and something like SeaChem StressGuard - and see if he regains some strength to help him fight off whatever is left...
Wasn't he in 73 degree temp water yesterday - why now 76?
I guess you have a few choices...
Since it started before you added Prazi - you can just let the Prazi do it's thing and see if the fish can make it...
OR...
You can do a 50% water change, bring the salinity down to 1.024, add a little more Prime and something like SeaChem StressGuard - and see if he regains some strength to help him fight off whatever is left...
Wasn't he in 73 degree temp water yesterday - why now 76?
UncleSalt
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That was a mis-type. I look at the thermometer reveals a 74.
UncleSalt
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I think I am goign to try option A here. He is still alive - and the Prazi is working. I think him letting the medicine work may be the best option.
Salty150
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OK, well make sure he is getting PLENTY of air - Prazi strips the water of air...
I also would go get something like SeaChem StressGuard or similar to add to the tank.
ThRoewer
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I would lower the salinity to somewhere between 1.016 and 1.020. It will lower the stress and energy consumption for the fish and increase the oxygen solubility of the water.
Don't do a freshwater bath. In my experience it doesn't do anything good but stresses the fish a lot.
If skin flukes or ich are of concern I would recommend going to full therapeutic hyposalinity. In my experience Regals handle that very well.
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Don't do a freshwater bath. In my experience it doesn't do anything good but stresses the fish a lot.
If skin flukes or ich are of concern I would recommend going to full therapeutic hyposalinity. In my experience Regals handle that very well.
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UncleSalt
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I haven't seen any symptoms of ich. Do I need to lower it slowly?
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Salty150
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Marine fish readily adjust to a rapid drop in salinity without any ill effects.
So you don't have to do it as slowly as raising.
It is the raising of salinity that must be done slowly.
Monitor the pH daily as this parameter has a tendency to fall in diluted saltwater.
An adequate oxygen level to provide energy is the top priority crucial to survival and recovery. A sufficient oxygen supply and allowing the fish to swim will reduce stress and help them to remove toxins from the body.
A swing in pH from 7.0 or so (maybe lower) to the pH of natural sea water (about 8.3) in just a few hours is highly stressful. Even a small change in pH, if it is rapid, can cause severe acidosis in fish leading to death.
Rapid temperature swings are also stressful contributing to blood chemistry changes and inhibited immune function.
Slowly adjust the pH no more than .3 per day (example: pH of 7.7 adjusted to 8.0) and the water temperature a couple degrees Fahrenheit each day.
So you don't have to do it as slowly as raising.
It is the raising of salinity that must be done slowly.
Monitor the pH daily as this parameter has a tendency to fall in diluted saltwater.
An adequate oxygen level to provide energy is the top priority crucial to survival and recovery. A sufficient oxygen supply and allowing the fish to swim will reduce stress and help them to remove toxins from the body.
A swing in pH from 7.0 or so (maybe lower) to the pH of natural sea water (about 8.3) in just a few hours is highly stressful. Even a small change in pH, if it is rapid, can cause severe acidosis in fish leading to death.
Rapid temperature swings are also stressful contributing to blood chemistry changes and inhibited immune function.
Slowly adjust the pH no more than .3 per day (example: pH of 7.7 adjusted to 8.0) and the water temperature a couple degrees Fahrenheit each day.
