Regal Angel Primer

UncleSalt, I'm glad to hear your Regal has stopped the head shaking. If you skip the formalin make sure you monitor him in the QT a few weeks longer. IMO it's better to keep it in a QT, monitor and fatten him up for longer period of time then using strong chemicals on it and rushing it into a display tank. Just my 2 cents
 
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I agree with carrots. Regal Angels are delicate enough that keeping her comfortable is important. The last on I lost because she would not eat, keep hiding in her cave. This time I put the heater in there so I can induce movement to get her out of the cave when I feed.
 
OrionN said:
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I agree with carrots. Regal Angels are delicate enough that keeping her comfortable is important. The last on I lost because she would not eat, keep hiding in her cave. This time I put the heater in there so I can induce movement to get her out of the cave when I feed.
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Well mine also does not like to leave the cave. In fact, unless a shrimp goes in there, she tends to pass them up. She eyeballs the bejesus outta them, but unless they get close.....nope!

Also, the QT is starting to get a little dirty. I keep up with lots of water changes, but there is a odd brown stuff growing on the bottom. There is one larger live rock in there as well.
 
UncleSalt said:
Well mine also does not like to leave the cave. In fact, unless a shrimp goes in there, she tends to pass them up. She eyeballs the bejesus outta them, but unless they get close.....nope!

Also, the QT is starting to get a little dirty. I keep up with lots of water changes, but there is a odd brown stuff growing on the bottom. There is one larger live rock in there as well.
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Does it look like algae? See if you can scrape it off with the siphon hose...

How many times a day are you feeding her?
 
UncleSalt said:
Well mine also does not like to leave the cave. In fact, unless a shrimp goes in there, she tends to pass them up. She eyeballs the bejesus outta them, but unless they get close.....nope!

Also, the QT is starting to get a little dirty. I keep up with lots of water changes, but there is a odd brown stuff growing on the bottom. There is one larger live rock in there as well.
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Have you tried the clams? They seem to get them eating more aggressively. I put mine in the display as soon as TTM, prazi, and formalin were done. It was eating ok but it great at that point. Once it got in the display it really starting eating well even with a bit pestering from my other regal for he first day or two. It will almost take food out of my hand at this point.
 
My Reagal is eating flakes like there is no tomorrow. I was just standing over the tank and add flakes a pinch at a time. The three fishes (Clown pair and the Regal) practically go after the food when it is still in my finger. At the end, I feed flakes and mysis combination and they still prefer flakes.
 
OrionN said:
... I feed flakes and mysis combination and they still prefer flakes.
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I have the same issue with my Sumatra Regal pair. Especially the larger one is a very picky eater. He prefers pellets and flakes over mysis. On top of that he only eats a very specific type of small mysis so at the store I have to check each plate of Hikari mysis to make sure that the mysis in it are the tiniest of the small. Once I couldn't find those and had to take what they had and those picky idiots behaved like I was trying to poison them.

My Philippine Regal is less picky and the Bali and Maldives regals eat whatever they can get.

I found that they all have different personalities.
The little Bali one is not shy like the other and rather aggressive, especially towards the Starcki damsel.


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Both of mine destroy mysis, LRS, and any type of shellfish. Can't get either to take pellets or flakes though. One is a Maldives, and one is unknown from aquatic collection. I assume it is Maldives as well though. I'm going on vacation next month so I really need them to start taking pellets or flake from the auto feeder.
 
pfan151 said:
Both of mine destroy mysis, LRS, and any type of shellfish. Can't get either to take pellets or flakes though. One is a Maldives, and one is unknown from aquatic collection. I assume it is Maldives as well though. I'm going on vacation next month so I really need them to start taking pellets or flake from the auto feeder.
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Yellow bellies from Aquatic Collection are usually from Sumatra via Bali. And the blue-gray ones are primarily from the Philippines.

As for getting them to eat pellets - I would just set up the auto feeder and let it run. At the same time you should reduce feeding frozen foods to one feeding in the evening. All my guys picked up eating flakes and pellets by watching other fish eating them.

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Regal Angel Primer

So I took a chance and put my regal into the DT. I placed him into an acclimation container and none of the fish showed any interest. I let him out in about two hours and he immediately got punked by each and every fish in there including but not limited to Achilles, Powder blue, chevron, and purple. I saw what was happening and turned off the lights.
He settled after a while and this morning he is hanging out by the back wall . He does venture out and the abuse stopped except when we swims out front, at which point the tangs chase him to the back and leave him there. It's much better than yesterday but he is still not "allowed" to roam, even though he tries. Will keep updated


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Sadly my guy woke up and was no longer with us. Ironically the formalin that's been missing - showed up today. I don't think I'll try another one for awhile.


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pfan151 said:
Wasn't it doing fine?
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Yes. Assumingly so..... he was swimming kind of odd yesterday and refused to come out of the PVC. He did eat though. I did another prazipro bath yesterday and you could see more flukes leaving him. When I went to bed, he was fine but still in the tube.


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UncleSalt said:
Sadly my guy woke up and was no longer with us. Ironically the formalin that's been missing - showed up today. I don't think I'll try another one for awhile.


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I am sorry to hear this. My last guy died. Same thing. She was shy and would not leave her cave. This time I added things in the cave to disturb it when I feed. I also have a pair of very aggressive eating clowns. I think Regal Angels are smart and learn to eat by watching other fish.
My baby Regal is a very aggressive eater now. I try to feed her dry food instead of frozen food. IMO, dry food are much more energy dense and have much wider amount of nutrients than frozen food. I am glad my Regal prefer to eat flakes over frozen. Here is a video of him eating just now. This is the 4th feeding today. I am home so I feed them every few hours. Only two feeding on weekdays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpbNF0HFPtA
 
OrionN said:
I am sorry to hear this. My last guy died. Same thing. She was shy and would not leave her cave. This time I added things in the cave to disturb it when I feed. I also have a pair of very aggressive eating clowns. I think Regal Angels are smart and learn to eat by watching other fish.
My baby Regal is a very aggressive eater now. I try to feed her dry food instead of frozen food. IMO, dry food are much more energy dense and have much wider amount of nutrients than frozen food. I am glad my Regal prefer to eat flakes over frozen. Here is a video of him eating just now. This is the 4th feeding today. I am home so I feed them every few hours. Only two feeding on weekdays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpbNF0HFPtA
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Perhaps I should have tried that. I feel like I did all I could do!


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OrionN said:
... My last guy died. Same thing. She was shy and would not leave her cave. ...
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Was that the last you just got from LA?
It seems they have a fluke issue. If you know that they have flukes I would go for a combination treatment with hyposalinity and PraziPro (dosed 4 weeks straight). And even that shouldn't be trusted blindly.
Most people treat "flukes" like Cryptocaryon irritans, Brooklynella hostilis or other well defined single species pathogens, but "flukes" is more of a general term that describes an entire group of families of parasitic flatworm species - the Monogenea and Digenea with thousands of species in at least 50 families! And not all are sensitive to everything! Some are completely unaffected by Praziquantel but can be killed with hyposalinity, others can handle freshwater just fine but are sensitive to Praziquantel, some require copper and a few can only be killed with dylox. So treating flukes is always a gamble unless you identify the family you are dealing with first.
 
That was over 1 year ago. I got that one from my LFS (they ordered from QM I think). It was fine as far as I can tell but just did not eat, mainly from being shy. This one I have her in a fully mature DT, cover everything so she is not spook by anything, then I place a eater in the cave I know that she will be in got get her out of the cave when I feed her. I may be lucky, but I think this was the most important reason for me to get her to eat.
 
My regal now swims in the open quite a bit and is pretty active but he still doesnt really eat anything. The tangs mostly leave him alone but when i throw a halfshell clam in, he comes up to it, looks at it and leaves. It got to the point that my tangs are eating the clam (or at least tearing it up) but he doesnt touch it. So far, he hasnt eaten nori, clam, blackworms, different types of flake and nls pellets. He doesnt even touch the zoas. Again, he is pretty active and is swimming w/ the tangs but doesnt eat...
 
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