Regal Angel Primer

nctangman, the first thing you want to make sure is the fish is eating at the store. If it eats at the store then chances it will eat in your tank. Thats the biggest obstacle you have to worry.
 
Thanks. I am still debating this, as I plan on having multiple angelfish in my tank, so I do not know if this fish is a smart choice. I dont want it to get picked on, and then stop eating..I would feel bad.

Kirk
 
If it is first angel in and is happily settled, it should not be bothered by new angels, unless they are a lot larger, but it may bother them.

I don't think they are all that timid once they are settled in. Mine would like to own the tank, if only it was big enough and I have read of many that are "the boss" in their tanks.

Steve
 
Steve,

The regal would be the first angel in the system and the second fish overall. A gold spotted rabbitfish (very timid) is the only other fish in my 375 gallon tank. My plan is to get all delicate fish acclimated first before the more "pushy" fish are introduced.

The delicate fish on my list are: Regal angel and Golden butterfly (Chaetodon semilarvatus)

the other angels I was considering are: Majestic and Emperor angelfish.

Kirk
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11053819#post11053819 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nctangman
cthetoy,

I noticed you are in Rancho,CA. Are you fairing well with all the fires down your way.?

Thanks for asking. The major fire is in Rancho Bernardo and I am in Rancho Cucamonga. We got lots of smoke from other fires nearby but our city is safe. The 2003 fires was alot worse where I could see the fire s from my house.

I also have a Golden Butterfly as well. Its in my quarantine tank and will go into the main tank this weekend. It ate pellets at the store so thats why I bought it. Did not have to worry about training it to eat from the water column.
 
I would do the Regal first over the rabbit. I thought the same thing since Rabbits are so skittish, however, when I moved my Regal over from my 58 gallon to my 120 which was housing a similarly sized Doliatus Rabbit fish, the Rabbit began chasing the Regal away from the broccoli.....I took the Rabbit to the LFS shortly after that.

My Regal is still pretty small.....around 4 inches not counting the tail.

Nick
 
Great information people. I am getting my Red Sea Regal tomorrow. It sounds like my yellow tail damsel might have to go. I have had him for 7 years he cycled my aquarimum. I am also curious there is talk about agressive bi-color angles. I have a Joculator angle I hope they are completely different species. The Joculator has never shown any assgessive behavior. Should the two be able to coexist in a 150??
 
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Nick
 
Nick (and anyone else that is interested),

Here is a good article about fish nutrition (what to feed and more importantly what not to feed your fish):

http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27014

I had the opportunity to hear Lee Birch talk about this subject last week when he visited our local fish club. This is definitely worth reading. Everyone that attended is re-thinking how and what they are feeding their fish.

Kirk
 
Hey Kirk,

Lee is the person who got me on the broccoli.....he definately knows what hes talking about.

I'm over at RF alot too...;)

Nick
 
It seems that activity on this thread has fallen off a bit, and since it is full of so much useful information I thought I would post my recent experience.

A couple of days ago I picked up male yellow belly from Sumatra. I got him for a very good price (even better when I applied a credit I had) from NY Aquatic. I had been in touch with the owner and he advised me that the fish was eating spirulina flakes before he put him up for sale. The owner of NY Aquatic had promised me some spirulina flakes, since I didn't have any, but I was so excited about my new acquisition that I forgot to get them from him. So I stopped at an LFS on my way home and got some OSI Spirulina Flakes.

I am happy to say that he was a beautiful healthy looking specimen, nice and fat. I took about two hours to acclimate him. NY Aquatic had him for just shy of a week, and had him in a tank with copper, 1.017 salinity and a PH of 7.8. Over the two hours I slowly dripped water into a bucket, acclimating him to my tank water parameters of 1.025 and 8.3.

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I then put him directly into the tank, skipping a QT period (Not normal procedure). This is a fairly new tank that has been set up for a little over two months ( I have much more experience than that, just a new tank). The only other inhabitants are a female Lammarck Angel and a male lyretail anthias. Once in the tank, the anthias was a little pushy at first but quickly lost interest in the new addition. The Regal took a swim around his new home and went into hiding in the rock.

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The next morning I fed the tank, but he really didn't eat much. But he did noticeably react to the addition of some spirulina flakes. Over the next two days he has become much more bold and while not eating allot he has picked at some spirulina flakes, mysis shrimp and formula 1 pellets. I am encouraged that he is at least sampling almost all of the different foods I have tried.
 
The tip on broccoli worked good as well as algae wafers & clam on a half shell or minced shrimp. Anything rubber banded to a clam shell got immediate attention.

Now my bad boy has made the transition to formula 1 pellets and pushes my green chromis aside to take them at or near the surface. IMO its very important to have LR with lot of growth for them to pick at until they get turned on by other stuff. Mine took almost 2 months to make the switch. It seemed to happen over night. Now he's a pig!
 
What have been people's experiences adding a second regal to an already established one?

I have a female (based off it having short gill/cheek spines) that has been in my 220 reef (100% SPS) for nearly 2 years now. I would love to make this fish a pair.

Any suggestions? I am strongly considering finding a male (long cheek spines) that is of equal or slightly larger size.

Current regal is a yellow belly version.
 
I just purchased a Regal Angel from Dr. Mac's. After reading some other sites, I think perhaps that I should have waited for a Red Sea variety rather than his Hand caught Solomon Island variety.
Has anyone else had experience with Dr Mac's Regal angels?
Like some of you others, I plan on doing a dip on this one and then proceed with a lengthy acclimation, then heading directly into my display tank in order to reduce the stress of adapting twice. My main tank has much more life for him to forage on as well. I handled my copperband this way as well. It is a sure risk and the only way I can accept doing this is if the fish has been already QT'd for a good period at the retailer. Has anyone else done it this way too and had success?
 
Well, reading more through this thread, I withdrew my Dr. Mac order and found a Red Sea variety that is already eating.
Have all of you QT'd ones that have acclimated successfully, or are there some of you that have reduced the stress by putting a previously QT'd (at the retailer) one right into your display. I have a bit of sponge and worms growing in there that I feel will help him off to a better start. My QT set is too sterile.
What do you think?
 
I posted this in the general fish section but realised it was more approprate here.

A LFS has two juvenile regals- they have been there for about a month and are feeding well. Both still have their juvenile colours one is about 1" the larger is 1 1/2". The larger one has much bigger gill spines than the smaller one (relative to fish size)

They are in separate tanks- I have a 2m x1m x 1m reef tank (480 UK galls) with 250kilos of LR and SPS. I know I'm chancing them picking at the corals but I’m prepared to take that risk.

My question is could I put them together in my system or am I asking for trouble. Will they fight either now or as they grow.

Is it possible to sex them at this size??
 
With all the talk on the Regal Angels being tough to keep, what is the best guess odds of the diligent reefer being successful? I would hate to through a few hundred bucks at a 1 in a hundred chance! So, what do you all think the odds are? From reading the thread, it seems like alot of you went through 2, if not 3 before keeping one a year or longer. Is that right?
 
I would guesstimate the rate at no better then 25%. Lots of keys and tips. Read this thread the whole way through and you'll know about everythign there is to know!
 
i'd say if the regal is not eating at the fish store your chances are pretty slim, maybe 1 out of 20 but if it IS eating then maybe 1 out of 4.
 
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