regal tang- how ich prone?

yakfishin

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I have a small regal (hippo) tang that I purchase yesterday currently in a quarantine tank. I have always heard that these fish can be quite hardy once established, but can be prone to ich.
But if the fish is kept quarantined for 5-6 weeks without any visible signs of ich or other problems, wouldn't it be a pretty safe fish to then add to a healthy tank? I guess what I'm wondering is, is it possible to have this fish go 5 weeks in quarantine without any problems, but then break out with ich once placed in my display tank? The tank is a 215G, and has been established now for about 4 months.
 
You should be safe after qt. Ich is a parasite that swims in the water, and attaches itself to fish, sometimes in the skin, sometimes in the gills---the latter is where it can come in undetected if you're not used to the species and don't pick up the signs of swollen gills or slight flaring or hanging near the surface.

The life cycle is about 6 weeks. Think of it as very like a flea infestation: if you eliminate the parasite and kill the next-gen hatch before they lay eggs, you're clean.

Tangs have the following characteristics: fast, strong swimmers, need a long run; aggressive toward other pancake-shaped fish, at worst, mostly toward perceived rivals or threats---my allegedly highly aggressive purple, [to go back to the store next week] has been a good guest with the cigarshaped fish I have: he couldn't hit one on a bet and they don't threaten him, and he never attacks, but he scares the daylights out of them with his strong movements. Second, they don't have scales: this lack of armor coating and lack of slime [such as mandarins have] leaves them unusually vulnerable to ich---they're more open water swimmers, and our shallow tanks force them to be much closer to the substrate [where one stage of ich lives] than ever happens in nature. Third, they have a very, very high oxygen need. Tangs get a rep for being the first fish to die in a tank crisis: this is often because of an oxygen lack.
They also get a disorder called hlle, or 'head and lateral line erosion', which is an ulceration in those areas: this is thought to be a dietary deficiency---too much meat, too little green algae. My purple came to me with hlle. I found that this little beggar despises nori, won't touch it on a bet, and he'll go for the meaty foods every time. So his previous owner probably indulged him, fed him only the chocolates, and turned him in when he got the hlle. I found he WILL eat Formula Spirulina cubes, which are strongly flavored spirulina algae mixed with chopped squid and clams, and this is improving his problem. But he's not for a 54, alas, and now that he's done in my caulerpa problem, he'll go back to the lfs in search of a big new home. His hlle has healed considerably, and if his new owner can feed him his spirulina cubes [which I will recommend to the lfs owner] he will continue to improve. HTH. Sounds like you have a great tank for a hippo.
 
Have fun...... Go ahead on stock up on copper and get ready to break down your tank. If there is one Ich parasite swimming around in your tank he will get it. All I have to do is walk past my tank and he stresses out and breaks out.
 
That was an amazingly complete reply Sk8tr, so all I can add is a little personal experience that echoes Sk8tr's advice about proper nutrition. Our blue hippo did contract Ich when another fish brought ICH into the tank after we didn't QT a new fish (our mistake that will never happen again).

The point is that while it did contract ICH, we were fortunate enough to notice it immediately, and fed him almost constantly with a wide variety of garlic and selcon soaked foods. We fed the whole tank 3x a day with Nori or Romaine available constantly. He ate like a pig, even when the ICH came back in it's 2nd flush AND when he got some sort of secondary infection (brown spots where the ICH was) and then even a small spot of fungus - we thought he was a goner! (except that he simply kept eating and being active) We couldn't believe that the fish that we thought was a goner based on it's reputation and the terrible shape it was in at one point, rallied back and now looks fatter than he was in the beginning with absolutley no scarring or ill affect when it's all said and done. We also feel that the extra time we spent ensuring the tang had plenty of varied foods meant that the whole tank was fed that way and we can only surmize that that also helped none of the other fish get infected.

When nervous they do wedge themselves into the smallest spots in the rockwork and will even lie upside down or on it's side...don't be alarmed. They can be skittish at first, but after a few months our Regal is happily co-existing with it's tank mates (including another Tang) is fat, happy and is a lively member of our FOWLR tank.

I should also say that I fully realize that we made a mistake not QTing, and that even the fact that we left the Regal in the display tank once infected is contrary to most people's advice. It's not my intention to advocate the WAY we handled it, (though there is a story there too) I'm just trying to show that these fish can be a lot tougher than people give them credit for.

Good luck! Sounds like you have a wonderful home for him waiting!

Steph :-)
 
Thanks for the replies. Wampas- I have quarantined the other two fish- a maroon clown and foxface, before adding them to the tank. Neither of those two fish ever showed symptoms of ich, so I'm hoping that my main tank is ich free. If the regal manages to stay ich free for the 5-6 week quarantine period, then I'm also going to assume that he is ich free. I'm guessing that stress alone can't bring out a parasite that isn't already present in the tank or the fish being added. Hopefully my tank will remain ich free (crossing my fingers!).
 
Good luck, in my experience regals are the most ich prone... although I've never had one die from it.
 
If he gets ich while in quarantine, then that's ok- I'll do what I need to do at that time to treat him. My main concern is that he goes the 6 weeks in QT without ich, but then becomes stressed in the main tank and breaks out. I'm assuming that my main display tank is ich free- at least I have never seen any signs of it. So if by chance the regal currently has ich but is not currently showing any symptoms, shouldn't I see signs of it within the 6 weeks of being QT'ed? Any chances that he goes through QT without showing ich and then breaks out after adding to the QT tank?
 
Sk8r...a follow up, it sounds as though you are basically fostering the Purple Tang? Has the LFS asked you to take him to get him healthy enough to resell? It's interesting! I'd love to hear more about it.
(sorry for the hijack yakfishin!)

Steph :-)
 
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