Revive killed my hawkins! Any others I should know about?

BradR

BradR

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Dipped a good number of ORA corals in Revive last week per the instructions on the bottle. All the frags did great except the Hawkins, all of which died. I asked someone else and they had the same happen with their hawkins using revive.

Are there any other types of SPS/LPS that one shouldn't use revive on? Maybe use TMPCC instead?

Thanks for any info!
 
TMPCC is going to be more harsh tho it still works.i have used revive at triple the dose and time and had no ill effects
 
I have heard the smoother skin SPS don't appreciate dipping as much, so I do shorter dips of Revive on them. TMPCC is indeed more harsh, so I just use Revive.
 
I've dipped the Hawkins in Revive, also the Icefire. Everything went well. Went at a higher dose but for a shorter time.
 
dipped mine last night when i got it to no ill effect but we will see ill keep you up dated if anything occurs
 
maybe this is why my Hawkins browned out. But the Revive did not kill it and it is coloring back up again.
 
ryshark said:
maybe this is why my Hawkins browned out. But the Revive did not kill it and it is coloring back up again.
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My Hawkins browns quickly, even if it's moving it in the same tank.

I've only used TMPCC, and I've never had ill effects on the Hawkins (except browning) or Ice Fire. And, according to many, TMPCC is more harsh than Revive.
 
I'd be very surprised to see any healthy coral die due to a dip in TLF Revive. I do 2x the recommended dosage, too.

The best way to dip it (IMO is to add per instructions) and blow on the coral with a turkey baster for about 30 seconds.

Let sit for 5 minutes and remove. Good Luck! :)
 
Hawkins are known to do poorly when introduced to a new tank after being freshly fragged. It might not just be Revive or your dip.
 
The problem with the pests we are dealing with is we need a solution that is strong enough to kill them quickly and completly, or knock them off.....without killing the coral.

Unfortunatly, SPS are pretty sensitive to begin with.....top that off with cutting a piece off, throwing it in a bag of non circulating water....etc,etc,etc....and your going to have some stress....and this is on top of whatever stress perhaps already existed.

This is another reason QT is still recommended first, then dipping only if found to be needed. However, we might not be able to hold a frag(s) long term in isolation, so many of us are forced to dip imediatly along with heavy inspection.

Dipping is an art.....In the end you have to remind yourself that loosing frags this way, is much better than loosing your whole tank should you not.

I have lost more pieces in the dipping process than I would like to think about, but keep the big picture in mind.....

This is why SPS keepers are crazy....we get kicked in the face....and then go and do it over and over and over......
 
i dipped an ora oregon blue tort, ora hawkins echinata and a birdnest frag at the same time after acclimating them for at least a couple of hours. The hawkins frag lost all of it's tissue by morning. bye bye mulla. Didn't know what to blame it on.

Oh, I used Revive.
 
revive is a cleansing liquid meant for sps but I've heard that several people use it for lps, softies, etc as well. the process is pretty simple, just follow the directions or thereabouts with some saltwater from your tank and keep some fluctuation of water during the process. everyone's method is different I'm sure but all similar.

I'm happy/lucky to say my hawkins responded well to the revive dip. I tend to do a shorter dip (5-10 mins) on most of my corals with a recommended amount or less. I've only been in the hobby for a year and dipping for much shorter but it seems that the general consensus on the smooth skinned corals is that they can't take heavy dips. BUT, I have only heard this with the hawkins and not other smooth skinned acros (coincidence? I'm unsure). IMO, there's more here than revive just killing an occasional coral and people hearing about it because it happened. If I had to guess, I would think people are much more successful than not with the revive dip, but there are more failures in the hawkins compared to most other corals being dipped. There's just something we don't know about the hawkins yet, and perhaps other smooth skinned acros.. it could be as simple as a smooth skinned acro means its just more finicky than other corals and we need a less time/amount of revive dip, or it could be something more complicated in relation to polyp extension only at night, something random like that.. a series of experiments would be a neat thing to do, but I don't have the money, resources or knowledge at this point. alright enough of my blabber. ;) subscribing.
 
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As mentioned, I wouldn't necessarily blame it on revive. I had a significant casualty rate on frags when I used TMPCC, in addition to the major browning or bleaching that would occur. I'd say something in the 15-20% rate. Very harsh.

On the other hand, I can't attribute any losses at all to revive. I typically dip at 2-5x dose, for 5+ minutes. I actually left a few SPS frags (including a smooth skinned tri-color) in there for in excess of an hour by accident as I ran out to do errands. Water was plenty cold (under air conditioner), and they still had little to no stress or loss of tissue even after that.

Revive is definitely odd on LPS. I get a feeding response when I dip many (especially acans). No issues there though either.

End all be all dip? Replacement for QT? Nope on both. More effective and less harsh than iodine, TMPCC, or anything else I've personally tested thus far... Yes (in my opinion).
 
Revive got my Hawkins to! Dipped a few corals together at regular strength and my hawkins looks like its lost tissue. Ive never had revive do that to a coral.
 
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