OllieNZ
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apparently there is a way to check whether glass is tempered or not but it's not something I've tried personally. However being an ex-car window fitter I've seen a lot of broken glass.
Rickztah's Low Iron 22g Peninsula RBTA / Euphyllia / Clownfish (build)
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apparently there is a way to check whether glass is tempered or not but it's not something I've tried personally. However being an ex-car window fitter I've seen a lot of broken glass.
rickztahone
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yeah, I have used sunglasses and led light to check before for aquariums with success. With sunglasses alone you can actually see small lines in automotive glass if you look for it.
rickztahone
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As I said, going bare bottom with this tank. Painted the tank bottom with Rustoleum textured paint and added flat white in to the mix to better look like reef sand. I have been using this textured paint for years and love how it looks. It gives a good balance between BB and sand, at least I think it does. Better than no paint IMHO.
DSC08501 by Rick Vasquez, on Flickr
DSC08502 by Rick Vasquez, on Flickr
After a good round of masking
DSC08503 by Rick Vasquez, on Flickr
and done
DSC08504 by Rick Vasquez, on Flickr
It will look better from the inside, I promise
Next I am going to try to make my own lid out of acrylic. Does anyone know, can you use a jig-saw on acrylic?
DSC08501 by Rick Vasquez, on FlickrDSC08502 by Rick Vasquez, on FlickrAfter a good round of masking
DSC08503 by Rick Vasquez, on Flickrand done
DSC08504 by Rick Vasquez, on FlickrIt will look better from the inside, I promise
Next I am going to try to make my own lid out of acrylic. Does anyone know, can you use a jig-saw on acrylic?
SanClementeEric
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How is the water going to go into the overflow?
BTW, those two first pics on the glass drilling fail made me lol! I'm scrolling down and see glass on a towel on the lawn and I'm thinking, this can't be right and then blamo!
BTW, those two first pics on the glass drilling fail made me lol! I'm scrolling down and see glass on a towel on the lawn and I'm thinking, this can't be right and then blamo!
rickztahone
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Lmao, yeah, lesson learned for sure. I was so anxious to use the drill guide that I had just gotten.
As far as the overflow. I will place a coast to coast inner overflow on that side to increase the water line. As it stands, the pass through holes would be way too low.
I'm actually planning on making the inner overflow out of acrylic rather than glass but am concerned about the expanding of it? I also plan on attaching it with silicone. This overflow bears no real pressure from the water, will it work?
Thanks man
Rick, if you're referring to the little black dots on the body, then most likely you are talking about the frozen frostbite. As juveniles, they'll have a couple of black dots but as they mature, more black dots will develop and cover the body. Here is a pic of the frozen frostbite clown pair that I wanted but were sold. I believe this pic is from Sea&reef, I can't remember.
rickztahone
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Rick, if you're referring to the little black dots on the body, then most likely you are talking about the frozen frostbite. As juveniles, they'll have a couple of black dots but as they mature, more black dots will develop and cover the body. Here is a pic of the frozen frostbite clown pair that I wanted but were sold. I believe this pic is from Sea&reef, I can't remember.
Man, those are really nice! TFS
rickztahone
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Thx for that info. I just need to cut rounded corners with it rather than straight lines
rickztahone
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Thank you, will do this when the time comes
rickztahone
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In other news, I have hit a bit of a snag. I was talking to a buddy yesterday and he noticed one thing that has got me really scratching my head. Initially, this build wasn't supposed to be a peninsula type tank, it was going to be up against a wall. Now however, the layout of the room it is going in has changed and it allows for a peninsula style tank. However, now that it is a peninsula type tank, I (we) cannot think of way to put in a return for the tank.
When the tank was going to go up against the wall, it was going to have a lily pipe return through the back over the tank. However, now, I cannot achieve this since the overflow is in the way. My friend suggested drilling another hole in the overflow itself, however, I was pushing it with three holes in such a small space, remember this is a space that is 11"x4.5" small. Getting another hole in there is going to be next to impossible, imho.
He had another suggestion as well but not too sold on it either. I was thinking of possibly reaching out to a lily pipe maker and asking if they'd be willing to do a custom made one where it goes over both the overflow in to the tank. This would make it so the lily pipe is really long, but I believe I may manage it. It would however be covering the overflow lid which is also a problem. I believe I can still slide the lid in and out under the lily pipe but seems like a lot of work.
Not sure if it is even advisable to try to drill another smaller hole (1/2") for a bulkhead and route the lily pipe through there. More than likely though, I will probably have to scrape all the silicone off this overflow box and try to drill 4 holes somehow. I am really dreading that prospect as drilling these 3 holes took FOREVER!
I will try to reach out to lily pipe sellers and see if there is an option.
I'm all ears as far as other solutions are concerned though.
When the tank was going to go up against the wall, it was going to have a lily pipe return through the back over the tank. However, now, I cannot achieve this since the overflow is in the way. My friend suggested drilling another hole in the overflow itself, however, I was pushing it with three holes in such a small space, remember this is a space that is 11"x4.5" small. Getting another hole in there is going to be next to impossible, imho.
He had another suggestion as well but not too sold on it either. I was thinking of possibly reaching out to a lily pipe maker and asking if they'd be willing to do a custom made one where it goes over both the overflow in to the tank. This would make it so the lily pipe is really long, but I believe I may manage it. It would however be covering the overflow lid which is also a problem. I believe I can still slide the lid in and out under the lily pipe but seems like a lot of work.
Not sure if it is even advisable to try to drill another smaller hole (1/2") for a bulkhead and route the lily pipe through there. More than likely though, I will probably have to scrape all the silicone off this overflow box and try to drill 4 holes somehow. I am really dreading that prospect as drilling these 3 holes took FOREVER!
I will try to reach out to lily pipe sellers and see if there is an option.
I'm all ears as far as other solutions are concerned though.
NVTE
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Ricardo,
have you thought about insert flexible tube through one of those 3 holes for return? With this tank size I don't think you need 3 holes for overflow. I recommend you to look into small Herbie style overflow.
I had 22 gallon cadlight and only used Maxijet 1200 (around 295GPH) as return as good result. DC3000 you can use Manifold to feed reactor.
good luck bro. and nice tank
rickztahone
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I certainly did think about that. I love redundancy and I hate to think that I could possibly flood my place by not having that emergency overflow, but I may just also go this route since I hate to think about stripping this whole thing and drilling once again. I have a spare piece exactly like the one I drilled that I was going to use as the overflow lid. I may end up just drilling this to see if I could get 4 holes (3x 1" & 1x 1/2"-3/4") and if the pane doesn't break, I will scrape all the silicone off and start all over again. The problem I may face is that with 4 holes, I have to make sure there is still enough space so that the bulkhead flange does not sit on silicone as it wouldn't allow for a proper seal.
Would a Herbie style overflow work exactly the same as a BA except for not having an emergency?
NVTE
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Rick, if you're referring to the little black dots on the body, then most likely you are talking about the frozen frostbite. As juveniles, they'll have a couple of black dots but as they mature, more black dots will develop and cover the body. Here is a pic of the frozen frostbite clown pair that I wanted but were sold. I believe this pic is from Sea&reef, I can't remember.
As I said, going bare bottom with this tank. Painted the tank bottom with Rustoleum textured paint and added flat white in to the mix to better look like reef sand. I have been using this textured paint for years and love how it looks. It gives a good balance between BB and sand, at least I think it does. Better than no paint IMHO.
After a good round of masking
and done
It will look better from the inside, I promise
Next I am going to try to make my own lid out of acrylic. Does anyone know, can you use a jig-saw on acrylic?
Ricardo,
Herbie style does have emergengy as well. Just one pipe completely submerged and other one is emergency pipe.
Here is what i use to calculate the drain pipe
Assume you run full speed on Dc 3000 which around 794 gph without head loss (imagine 4' head loss, and pipe loss your pump might only run like 650 to 700) . you need drain pipe around 1.16" drain pipe (with 794gph)
http://reefcentral.com/index.php/drainoverflow-size-calc
so 1" drain pipe (full submerged) and the emergency can take care of it.
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rickztahone
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Thank you for doing that calculation Daniel. I had been doing a lot of research earlier today and I came to the same conclusion, just run a Herbie overflow. I also have a build thread on another thread and they basically suggested the same thing. So, 2 of the BH's will be used as a Herbie overflow and the last bulkhead will have a standpipe that almost goes all the way to the top and will have a lily pipe routed over it. I plan on actually gluing that piece in as opposed to the other 2 which I never glued in my 75g tank.
One last question, could I possible have a T on the taller emergency pipe and have one upturned elbow and then have the top of that T open as well to serve as an emergency for that emergency or is that just too redundant and would that in itself introduce unnecessary noise?
All help is greatly appreciated.
This just goes to show, even after careful planning for a long time, oversights can and are made regularly haha. I try to be meticulous but with my sudden change of tank layout, I simply didn't account for this minor issue.
One last question, could I possible have a T on the taller emergency pipe and have one upturned elbow and then have the top of that T open as well to serve as an emergency for that emergency or is that just too redundant and would that in itself introduce unnecessary noise?
All help is greatly appreciated.
This just goes to show, even after careful planning for a long time, oversights can and are made regularly haha. I try to be meticulous but with my sudden change of tank layout, I simply didn't account for this minor issue.
NVTE
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No need to T the emergengy. It is good by itself because the flow is barely went into that emergency pipe. The Herbie is very quiet, so if you hear the noise from emergency pipe, it is good alarm that your main drain is clogged.
rickztahone
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Similar to the Bean Animal. I run a BA system on my 75g discus tank. I have simulated a clog and it is loud indeed.
I think that with a strainer on the full siphon and the straight standpipe it would be more than enough for my little tank. I still want to run my lily pipe through the last bulkhead and up and over the tank wall and inner overflow.
Someone already told me that lily pipes get too dirty. I have had a fair share of them in the past and while they can get dirty, if cleaned regularly, they aren't that bad. The only other alternative would be to drill through the tank wall and through the inner overflow which I really don't want to do, or drill the tank wall below the inner overflow and I really don't want to do that either, lol. I really don't want to drill the tank any more and would much rather try the lily pipe route. If worse were to come to worse, I could always do an over the rim return made out of pvc. It wouldn't be pretty but it would offer a solution to a problem the lily pipe may cause.
NVTE
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I would not use lily pipe as well. I would go with PVC route, and use some decoration to hide the pipe.
What kind of rockscape and corals you have in mind that might help to camouflage ?
iSeeMax101
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Have the bottom drilled for the return! Make it invisible
