ridiculous ich outbreak!! need help

Zacktosterone

Zacktosterone

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Ok so I purchased some fish and put them in quarantine and
Came home today to find the tangs I have in there are COVERED in salt. I was going to do tank transfer but at this point I don't even think they'll make it!! How fast can I increase copper. I've got 3 small tangs, a melunaris wrasse and a couple anthias is quarantine.

What should I do. I was going to do tank transfer tonight but it looks like it would be way too late. If I wait till morning when the cysts jump off and change the water in the morning and add some copper It may be better. If I wait till morning it will be about 67 hours. Then do it every 3 days after while maintaining the overall amount of copper whenever they're in the tank.

Advice needed!!
 
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How many gallons is your QT? Also what size are your 3 tangs? Do you have access to cp?
I like tank transfer but that is a lot of fish to QT at one time. It is a group of big eaters.
 
sreefs said:
How many gallons is your QT? Also what size are your 3 tangs? Do you have access to cp?
I like tank transfer but that is a lot of fish to QT at one time. It is a group of big eaters.
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2" each. I can do tank transfer I don't mind the work that's what I usually do. I have cupramine if that's what you mean by cp. Its a 20 gallon long. I was going to change them to a completely different tank, heater, pipes etc and water every 2 days.
 
CP is short for Chloroquine Phosphate. Are you sure you are dealing with ich? If so I would use tank transfer, but make sure to keep ammonia under control. Feed anthias small amounts a few times daily. Be sure you have amquel or similar on hand to treat ammonia.
 
snorvich said:
Describe the behavior of the fish? When acquired? Did the LFS run a low level of copper?
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No they were in a reef environment. Eating well. Noticible small signs of ich. Maybe a dot or two on two tangs. I didn't expect an explosion. I purchased them thinking I can cure them and keep up with amonia with tank transfer. I've done it before with great success. But now I'm not sure if it will still work
 
I woke up this morning to find my kole tang is dead. Its got a glaze over its body and a tonne up salt spray . I've added copper last night and I transfered everyone over to the new tank with new water. The copper concentration was the same.

Tank transfer won't work. The tang and male anthias are still covered in what seems to be the velvet. Velvet rarely shows until its too late. But ich doesnt kill this fast.
 
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Going back to my previous post! The male anthias, the kole and purple tang were in a low copper solution actually!!! The rest were in a reef environment. The three in the low copper solution were the first ones to contract it
 
my fish look like this
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I'm no expert but it seems that you are dealing with Velvet at this point and not Ich so TT method is out of the question. Copper or CP would be the only treatments to go with right now.
 
tassod said:
I'm no expert but it seems that you are dealing with Velvet at this point and not Ich so TT method is out of the question. Copper or CP would be the only treatments to go with right now.
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There's no way I can get my hands on cp. I have cupramine in the tank now. I'm wondering how fast I can raise the levels to take control
 
Hey snorvich I told you that I always quarantine and I was playing devils advocate or did you forget that when we were talking about tank transfer in your thread and another I have made. Second I don't have a single fish in my main display that has not been quarantined and medicated. Thirdly these fish have never seen my display. And nina51, the playground where the other highschool kids are is around the corner. So I don't understand why I can't get some help with the proper protocol that has been preached for years. Or is it about getting off on "I told you so" to a person who has always quarantined and started a thread for the sake of arguement that you both fed into?
 
When I use copper, I follow the directions on the bottle. I have a test kit to check the levels, because live rock will absorb some and I want to get the levels correct.
 
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