Ritteri/ R. magnifica anemnes for sell /trade
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12088333#post12088333 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GreshamH
Having spoken with you in person a few times I felt you english was better then above, but I do apologize. Heck, it's my first langauge and was my worst subject thru out school so I am not one to talk really :lol: I played NO language games, I simply was confused by your presentation of your third language.
My concern is for the animals, nothing else.
Trust me, the importers/exporters know their deal......shipping them is not an easy task. You got lucky and that's great, just don't think your luck can transfer to just everyone, especially to people that do this for a livingLosing an animal to them is loosing money and they try daily not to hemerage money. IMO it's one anem that shouldn't be imported, along with all carpets.
BTW what the heck is PRN? Phyto, Rotifer & Nanno... now your
talking my language :lol:
Have we met in person? Where? You've spoken to me??? Ouch, may be my memory is gone as well.
Carpet anemone species that I am interested are: S.mertensii, S.haddoni and the Gigantea.
I do believe Mertensii can be kept by hobbyists with larger tank and stable environment. They conform to their environment and adjust well to captive. Haddoni is a little harder, in particular the more exotic colored ones. But, the Gigantea is a difficult specie to keep. They are poor shipper and a lot of missing info that we don't have yet to keep it alive long term. A lot like trying to keep sps in the 70's.
Do you like large sea anemones? Have you ever kept one long term in your personal tank, not just "working " with them in the wholesaler set up?
riteri
riteri
Hey can you send a couple of pics, I can't open photobucket at work. I may be interested in a couple but have to discuss it with my boss here first as cost is a little higher than what we would pay wholesale. I am trying to convince them it is worth it, but need something to show them. Let me know if you decide to ship them.
riteri
Hey can you send a couple of pics, I can't open photobucket at work. I may be interested in a couple but have to discuss it with my boss here first as cost is a little higher than what we would pay wholesale. I am trying to convince them it is worth it, but need something to show them. Let me know if you decide to ship them.
I've had my BTA for almost 10 years and a LTA for 8 in a friends tank I take care off.
Problem with carpets is how old they are and the fact they are mainly limitted in their breeding capacity. What we see in aquaria can be hundreds of years old. If you saw a 10 year old carpet you'd wonder why it was so small. Anemonies, expecially carpets, are being wiped clean by the trade and the environment. I persoanlly think the entire anem. trade should be shut down except for BTA's!
Problem with carpets is how old they are and the fact they are mainly limitted in their breeding capacity. What we see in aquaria can be hundreds of years old. If you saw a 10 year old carpet you'd wonder why it was so small. Anemonies, expecially carpets, are being wiped clean by the trade and the environment. I persoanlly think the entire anem. trade should be shut down except for BTA's!
Greesham,
I am sorry I didn't grasp the jest of your last post. I was horrified that I didn't remember where we had met, and still don't
It is ok, don't worry. All of us are passionate and addicted to this hobby and do get emotional at times. It is an enormous emotional commitment that can be over burdening for some. A lot of times, I had to take a step back and realize it is a hobby and I should have fun.
I love to talk about this subject of anemone reproduction, I see progress being made each year. I believe it is only a matter of time that we can reproduce them in a lab. Many of us have save one or two polyps sizes of sps and they went on to survived and thrived. I cut a <1/2" tissue of a magnifica a few months ago and it survived and developed into a small Mag in a week. I'll look for the pictures.
I am sorry I didn't grasp the jest of your last post. I was horrified that I didn't remember where we had met, and still don't
It is ok, don't worry. All of us are passionate and addicted to this hobby and do get emotional at times. It is an enormous emotional commitment that can be over burdening for some. A lot of times, I had to take a step back and realize it is a hobby and I should have fun.
I love to talk about this subject of anemone reproduction, I see progress being made each year. I believe it is only a matter of time that we can reproduce them in a lab. Many of us have save one or two polyps sizes of sps and they went on to survived and thrived. I cut a <1/2" tissue of a magnifica a few months ago and it survived and developed into a small Mag in a week. I'll look for the pictures.
The cut was made back in Jan I think:
A few days late:
I lost the baby to an infection, but the mom is till alive and doing well. I'll try to make another cut soon. Here is mom, the one with blue tip on the peak:
Kudos to you for keeping your anemones alive. By the way, I am not sue if this is the right forum to discuss this issue further, though I love the topic. I think there is an RC rule on buy and sell threads that no discussion or some thing like that.
A few days late:
I lost the baby to an infection, but the mom is till alive and doing well. I'll try to make another cut soon. Here is mom, the one with blue tip on the peak:
Kudos to you for keeping your anemones alive. By the way, I am not sue if this is the right forum to discuss this issue further, though I love the topic. I think there is an RC rule on buy and sell threads that no discussion or some thing like that.
The only rule that may apply to this is they don't like Buy/Sell threads in the club forums or any place but the Buy/Sell forum. They tolerate them here though 
Flighty
Premium Member
Shutiny,
I can't express how excited I am to see your progress with magnifica propagation!
I tried the same experiment with a small clipping and also lost it, although it detached from the rock during cutting which may have contributed to it not growing. I split one large adult into three with success though.
Have you had any propagation success with S. mertensi or with anything sexually?
Please PM me if you still have too many and think shipping to NH would work.
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I can't express how excited I am to see your progress with magnifica propagation!
I tried the same experiment with a small clipping and also lost it, although it detached from the rock during cutting which may have contributed to it not growing. I split one large adult into three with success though.
Have you had any propagation success with S. mertensi or with anything sexually?
Please PM me if you still have too many and think shipping to NH would work.
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)Hi Cindy,
Nice to hear from you.
I have not had success growing baby haddoni, but am still trying. Have not done any mertensii propagation, but when I am home more, I'll give it a try. The two mertens are getting very big but had not spawned for me. The magnificas(and sps) have spawned in the new tank, though. I just saw may be 500-600 babies on rocks. BUT, not sure if I am seeing thousands of aptasias or are they baby magnificas. Only time will tell. I'll let you know.
Looks like you have success with mag propagation, congrats!
I am happy to trade some babies mags if you like We can pm about it.
Nice to hear from you.
I have not had success growing baby haddoni, but am still trying. Have not done any mertensii propagation, but when I am home more, I'll give it a try. The two mertens are getting very big but had not spawned for me. The magnificas(and sps) have spawned in the new tank, though. I just saw may be 500-600 babies on rocks. BUT, not sure if I am seeing thousands of aptasias or are they baby magnificas. Only time will tell. I'll let you know.
Looks like you have success with mag propagation, congrats!
I am happy to trade some babies mags if you like
We can pm about it.Hello Shutiny,
I just came across this thread, and all I can say is wow! I'm so glad someone is having such success cloning magnificas. I started off with one H. mag over 6 years ago, and it cloned in November of '06. That very same week, my four year old magnifica also cloned. Have you noticed that when one clones it seems to trigger cloning in others?
I read that you believe Metal Halide is necessary. Perhaps that is true in especially large or deep tanks, but over the years, I've had mine under PC's, MH, and now T-5 HO. I do have a shallow tank, and when under the pc's the anemones tentacles were almost at the surface of the water, but I actually feel the PC's and T-5's result in a healthier looking animal.
Like you, over the years, I've had some mishaps as well, including flooding my tank with fresh water and the specific gravity dropping drastically and nitrates that once topped out at something like 60-80ppm. In each case, my magnificas survived. Fortunately I haven't subjected them to any traumas in a long time now. But, like you, it seems that once they are well established, they can be quite hardy. I know they are very delicate and do require near perfect conditions for long-term care, but a healthy animal can take brief periods of less than ideal conditions.
I love those pics too. Your expertise could be helpful in the "Clownfish and Anemones" forum.
I just came across this thread, and all I can say is wow! I'm so glad someone is having such success cloning magnificas. I started off with one H. mag over 6 years ago, and it cloned in November of '06. That very same week, my four year old magnifica also cloned. Have you noticed that when one clones it seems to trigger cloning in others?
I read that you believe Metal Halide is necessary. Perhaps that is true in especially large or deep tanks, but over the years, I've had mine under PC's, MH, and now T-5 HO. I do have a shallow tank, and when under the pc's the anemones tentacles were almost at the surface of the water, but I actually feel the PC's and T-5's result in a healthier looking animal.
Like you, over the years, I've had some mishaps as well, including flooding my tank with fresh water and the specific gravity dropping drastically and nitrates that once topped out at something like 60-80ppm. In each case, my magnificas survived. Fortunately I haven't subjected them to any traumas in a long time now. But, like you, it seems that once they are well established, they can be quite hardy. I know they are very delicate and do require near perfect conditions for long-term care, but a healthy animal can take brief periods of less than ideal conditions.
I love those pics too. Your expertise could be helpful in the "Clownfish and Anemones" forum.
Thanks for your kind words. I learned a lot from the " Clown and Anemone Forum" over the years.
Yes, I do see same species spawning and/or asexual division occurred at the same environment. I had small frags of accropora that spawned same time as the other large colonies and these occurred in two different system!. I have learned that these reproductive cues can be manipulate to induce spawning in my tank.
I also believe the species,( may be even genus) are genetically engineered to react to the same environmental /reproductive cues. I think we will continue to see new species or the "super species" as the process of evolution continuos.
An established ritteri can and do with stand less optimal conditions at times without much difficulties, however, I have never seen a health ritteri in the wild that has that short tentacle looks that I've often seen specimens that were grown under PC or other lesser intense light sources. Feeding helps, and again, each specimen has its own margin of tolerance for less than optimal conditions. But all my colones do best when they go directly under 400w MH vs the one under 250w. The cut wound healed almost twice as fast as the one under 250w MH.
Kudos to you for keeping your anemones and gave them ideal environment to thrive and reproduce.
Flighty
Premium Member
I was just saying in another thread that I believe there are some polymorphisms in the magnifica genes, so when they sexually reproduce some are better suited to survive in low light and some in high light. The ones that settle in an environment that they are unsuited for do not survive. I saw magnificas thriving and asexually reproducing in 60 feet of water, well below where acros were making their living. I would venture to guess that the commonly collected anemones are from shallower water and therefore they are the anemones which had the genes to survive well in high light.
I also noticed (both in my tank and in the wild) that the tentacle length was very dependant on the flow. High flow meant wicked long tentacles and ones in still areas had short ones sticking straight up.
I also noticed (both in my tank and in the wild) that the tentacle length was very dependant on the flow. High flow meant wicked long tentacles and ones in still areas had short ones sticking straight up.
"each specimen has its own margin of tolerance for less than optimal conditions".
In a total agreement with you, as I have said in my last post, acceptance/ tolerance/survival may varied for individual specimens.
Tentacle length is affected by flow, light and other environmental condition, as it should be. However, IMHO, a persistent lack of full tentacle extension during day light hours is most likely an indication of some latent issues.
By the way, I am not an "expert" on this subject. I hope I did not presented that impression. These were/are just my personal observations from my animals and from field findings. Any ways.
Thanks Cindy, I can see that you are still very much interesting in ritteris Did you try to induce sexual reproduction on yours?
In a total agreement with you, as I have said in my last post, acceptance/ tolerance/survival may varied for individual specimens.
Tentacle length is affected by flow, light and other environmental condition, as it should be. However, IMHO, a persistent lack of full tentacle extension during day light hours is most likely an indication of some latent issues.
By the way, I am not an "expert" on this subject. I hope I did not presented that impression. These were/are just my personal observations from my animals and from field findings. Any ways.
Thanks Cindy, I can see that you are still very much interesting in ritteris
Did you try to induce sexual reproduction on yours?Flighty, that makes perfect sense that some specimens are collected from either deeper water or areas with greater turbidity, and therefore require less intense light. I would love to be able to go diving in H. magnifica territory and see them in their natural habitat. Along with differences in light, I know they are also found in the Red Sea where the specific gravity averages 1.028. I suppose there may be some tolerance for a range of salinities too. I try to keep mine around 1.026 (35ppt) on a refractometer calibrated with Pinpoint Solution. Just curious what specific gravity/ppt you two (Flighty and Shutiny) keep your anemones?
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12124575#post12124575 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by shutiny
The cut was made back in Jan I think:
A few days late:
Sorry to derail your thread again but I just caught the macro in your tank...You do know that species of caulerpa is illegal in Cali?
http://www.sccat.net/
Nukeproof
New member
Gresham,
I am starting feel that you have something against Shu Tin. I know Shu Tin and she had always try to do the right thing. A lot of people including many LFS have caulerpa. I thought it was illegal to sell them only. I think most of us know the effect of caulerpa to our local econ system. Let's go back to the original thread.
Patrick
I am starting feel that you have something against Shu Tin. I know Shu Tin and she had always try to do the right thing. A lot of people including many LFS have caulerpa. I thought it was illegal to sell them only. I think most of us know the effect of caulerpa to our local econ system. Let's go back to the original thread.
Patrick
Greshm,
Its OK, I wished that I can show you the rock/tank, its now all clean of macroalgae. Thanks to 50 Mexican Turbo, all my macroalgae are gone I was keeping the snails for Jon's new tank and forgot these guys eat every thing, including my collection of Halymania that I begged and some shipped from Bali. The Caulerpa were from a rock from some one else's tank. It explored in the refugium, but thanks for your concern.
Thanks Patrickb, I do prefer PM for not related topics.
I am away from home this week, but will post pics when I get back.
Thanks for your comments Patrick. I am with you in regards to our fragile ecosystem. I am sitting on a beach with my laptop, the weather is nice, 72 degree with light breeze. I would not wanted any killer algae to take away this beautiful ecosystem
Its OK, I wished that I can show you the rock/tank, its now all clean of macroalgae. Thanks to 50 Mexican Turbo, all my macroalgae are gone
I was keeping the snails for Jon's new tank and forgot these guys eat every thing, including my collection of Halymania that I begged and some shipped from Bali. The Caulerpa were from a rock from some one else's tank. It explored in the refugium, but thanks for your concern.Thanks Patrickb, I do prefer PM for not related topics.
I am away from home this week, but will post pics when I get back.
Thanks for your comments Patrick. I am with you in regards to our fragile ecosystem. I am sitting on a beach with my laptop, the weather is nice, 72 degree with light breeze. I would not wanted any killer algae to take away this beautiful ecosystem
