RPS all-out... take 2 !

Reef Bass said:
I agree there seems to still be metabolic activity within the eggs. Not a great sign. On the wishful thinking side, maybe it's a pocket of death and decay forming within the eggs.

Keep in mind each egg can house 3-7 embryos.

As far as the effect on planaria, Flatworm Exit kills planaria but not aefw. So while both are in the large flatworm family, it seems they are sufficiently different to warrant different treatment agents.
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Flatworm Exit will kill AEFW, you just need to use a dosage that's so muchh, much higher than Salifert's recommended dose you could never use it in a display tank. The dose of flatworm exit I used to kill the AEFW was also high enough to kill every crab, pod, and worm exposed to the dip (RIP acropora crabs that I couldn't get out of the coral)

I killed all the flatworms on a coral by putting the frag in a dish with maybe 3/4 a cup of water, then adding 10 drops of flatworm exit (recommended dose is 1 drop/gallon). The flatworms started reacting and curling up off the coral at drop two, and completely disintegrated on the bottom of the dish at 10 drops.
 
thanks for the comments...
pics of the day, I will compare from day-to-day now as things seems to evolve...

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and I've gotten the coral out of the water for a better view of the eggs :
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I need to redip. I'm seeing bite marks on my efflo again. It could have came from the corals I didn't dip or not. I have no way of telling at this point.
 
I reckon they are baby AEFW. We'll find out over the coming days if they multiply.
I always thought baby's just flew out into the current when they hatched and that's how the whole tank got infected....

Mo
 
Moser said:
I reckon they are baby AEFW. We'll find out over the coming days if they multiply.
I always thought baby's just flew out into the current when they hatched and that's how the whole tank got infected....

Mo
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that's certainly a possibility...

from the abstract of the study :

The hatchling is capable of swimming but settles to the benthos quickly, and no zooxanthellae were observed in the animal at this stage. We suggest that intracapsular metamorphosis limits the dispersal potential of hatchlings and promotes recruitment of offspring into the natal habitat.
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two comments:
I have dipped 28 corals with this so far. Only one a red dragon acro died. it faded out then then by the next day it was totally bleached/melted. not sure if it had anything to do with the RPS, but it was the only deep water acro i dipped and the only one that died. so far i have not discover any AEFW but didn't see any to start.
what i don't understand about these products is if they work why doesn't the maker release their own results? in this case RPS must have done the same testing that was done here and if they achieved positive results why not show the photos and/or evidence?
 
Sulcata102 said:
two comments:
I have dipped 28 corals with this so far. Only one a red dragon acro died. it faded out then then by the next day it was totally bleached/melted. not sure if it had anything to do with the RPS, but it was the only deep water acro i dipped and the only one that died. so far i have not discover any AEFW but didn't see any to start.
what i don't understand about these products is if they work why doesn't the maker release their own results? in this case RPS must have done the same testing that was done here and if they achieved positive results why not show the photos and/or evidence?
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My thought exactly.. and if this doesn't kill eggs, then I don't think anyone should pay 30 bucks to pay for this product (only enough to make total of 5 gallon dip). Bayer can probably achieve the same result.. but we will see more from the OP...

I truly hope this product can do what the company claimed.
 
Sulcata102 said:
two comments:
I have dipped 28 corals with this so far. Only one a red dragon acro died. it faded out then then by the next day it was totally bleached/melted. not sure if it had anything to do with the RPS, but it was the only deep water acro i dipped and the only one that died. so far i have not discover any AEFW but didn't see any to start.
what i don't understand about these products is if they work why doesn't the maker release their own results? in this case RPS must have done the same testing that was done here and if they achieved positive results why not show the photos and/or evidence?
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the owner/inventor showed their true sign in the other thread which got closed.

basically, his words were some scientists said it kills eggs lol find the scientist now LOL

as I posted in the other thread, if one if fact made such ground breaking product, they would advertise it, show videos of it working and well ... take over the coral dipping market Fully globally within hours :)
 
Aqua80; I have the article: Taxonomy and life history of the Acropora-eating flatworm Amakusaplana acroporae

Please PM as otherwise I will forget. You may find it useful. I emailed Dr Rawlinson, but never got a reply. I have the article saved somewhere.
 
So let me get this right, you cant use this product if you dont have a qt tank and you have shrimps,crabs or snails otherwise your taking a chance of killing them and so far it doesnt seem to kill off the eggs. So why bother using it?
 
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