Ruby Red Dragonet Breeding Journal
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kizanne
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It's going about the same. They are spawning but I haven't got my pod population up yet. I'm actually excited because my LFS says the Algagen is releasing two new pods that are detrivores but have small pelagic larva. I hope to get them next week. That would really make keeping the pods a lot simpler.
With school now in I don't have as much time but I hope to get the pods up so I can try some more.
With school now in I don't have as much time but I hope to get the pods up so I can try some more.
Dkuhlmann
New member
Great thread and I'm really enjoying following it. BUT I have to derail for a second, gogo what in the world is your avatar?
gogo7
pico reefer
uh yeah, ......about that...
sorry kiz, but i guess i gotta splain mself.
dkuhlmann, it's a bit of a story, so here goes.
i had a one gallon reef vase that had a clown gobie in it. i had him for about a year and fed him single pellets. he saw a whole menagerie of poor little things i thought he'd like to keep him company. most of then he abused. then one hot day he got taken out.
his name was gogo and he was my little puppy that was really happy to see me come home after a tough day at work. i keep him in a vial of alcohol and use his namesake as my avatar.
i know it seems kinda gross or even psychotic, but i think of it as honouring a lost pet.
he was my favourite fish i think i ever owned.
sorry kiz, but i guess i gotta splain mself.
dkuhlmann, it's a bit of a story, so here goes.
i had a one gallon reef vase that had a clown gobie in it. i had him for about a year and fed him single pellets. he saw a whole menagerie of poor little things i thought he'd like to keep him company. most of then he abused. then one hot day he got taken out.
his name was gogo and he was my little puppy that was really happy to see me come home after a tough day at work. i keep him in a vial of alcohol and use his namesake as my avatar.
i know it seems kinda gross or even psychotic, but i think of it as honouring a lost pet.
he was my favourite fish i think i ever owned.
kizanne
Member
They continue to spawn. My pods have finally started to build and I just got some more psuedo pods. I also now have a tetra culture. I haven't gotten a t-iso going but I have been buying phycopure copepod blend every two weeks from my LFS. I'm not paying much because I'm trading in stuff like some zoas and macro algae. I'm soon going to trade in my banggai babies if he'll take them. This week I'm going to take him some captain america polyps and maybe some Diseased (that's their name not their condition). He's usually fairly generous on the trade items. I also have some fire and ice that are nice looking.
I'm waiting on new ones from Algagen via my LFS I think they are the below he hasn't told me their names but that algagen says they are easier to raise and are for breeders so from their website.
Euterpina: small pelagic nauplii. Grows in substantial numbers, ubiquitous. It has been used successfully in breeding efforts. Great for reef tanks.
Nitokra lucustris: can be produced in large numbers. Has been studied extensively by Dr. Adelaide Rhodes. Easy to culture. May be a candidate to be raised on paste. Great for reef tanks.
Apocylops panamensis: We got this from Jim W. who has had great success working with it in his breeding endeavors…thank you Jim! He has raised this on paste. We do see very hi-production densities. Small nauplii and adult are visible with the eye but still…. Coming soon as AlgaGen PODSTM Apocyclops.
I told him I'd take one of each.
I also have a very interesting thing going on in my main tank. I have like a new copepod that just showed up. At least I think it is a pod and I think it is good. I'll have to try to get one on the microscope but they stick to the glass really well and I"m having trouble catching one. small numbers so far.
I'm waiting on new ones from Algagen via my LFS I think they are the below he hasn't told me their names but that algagen says they are easier to raise and are for breeders so from their website.
Euterpina: small pelagic nauplii. Grows in substantial numbers, ubiquitous. It has been used successfully in breeding efforts. Great for reef tanks.
Nitokra lucustris: can be produced in large numbers. Has been studied extensively by Dr. Adelaide Rhodes. Easy to culture. May be a candidate to be raised on paste. Great for reef tanks.
Apocylops panamensis: We got this from Jim W. who has had great success working with it in his breeding endeavors…thank you Jim! He has raised this on paste. We do see very hi-production densities. Small nauplii and adult are visible with the eye but still…. Coming soon as AlgaGen PODSTM Apocyclops.
I told him I'd take one of each.
I also have a very interesting thing going on in my main tank. I have like a new copepod that just showed up. At least I think it is a pod and I think it is good. I'll have to try to get one on the microscope but they stick to the glass really well and I"m having trouble catching one. small numbers so far.
gogo7
pico reefer
excellent info kiz. thanks. i'll be trying to get some of these to try out.
i've gotta hit up my lfs for some trades.
Hi there,
I just have a quick question and I hope you didn't cover it already in the prior posts.
I have one male who is displaying to my female. her tummy is quite plump and round but she doesn't seem interested in returning the male's attention. In fact, he has started chasing her a bit and nipping at her!
Is that normal? Should I look to get some more females?
sarah
I just have a quick question and I hope you didn't cover it already in the prior posts.
I have one male who is displaying to my female. her tummy is quite plump and round but she doesn't seem interested in returning the male's attention. In fact, he has started chasing her a bit and nipping at her!
Is that normal? Should I look to get some more females?
sarah
kizanne
Member
I found a new copepod in my show tank (hope it's a copepod) I put it in this thread to identify.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2513506
I also picked up two of the new copepods from Algagen
Apocyclops and Euterpina
We'll see if I have better luck keeping these alive. I think my parvo's failed again. My tisbe's are still doing well.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2513506
I also picked up two of the new copepods from Algagen
Apocyclops and Euterpina
We'll see if I have better luck keeping these alive. I think my parvo's failed again. My tisbe's are still doing well.
kizanne
Member
So here we go again. I have some ( small numbers of the two above). I have some parvo's 25K adults and 20k nauplii. I have three jars of eggs or larva. With the oldest being larva on 10-4-15 pm and the latest becoming larva last night. I think the oldest are definately hunting copepods they are fairly active.
kizanne
Member
So the jar from the 4th only has two larva I can see and the pods are low. I think lack of nutrition. The hatched sun and not many pods til Tuesday.
The Monday batch still has several larvae and when I added more pods this evening they appeared to be more lively. I got a batch from Tuesday that I dumped in a catch all jar I don't think it has enough pods though. Hard to see in.
I got more eggs this evening so I'll have to see what I can do with them tomorrow.
IF they make it a week then I think I can put in some tisbe pods. My current population of those is rising. If they don't go to larvae they'll go in the tank.
The Monday batch still has several larvae and when I added more pods this evening they appeared to be more lively. I got a batch from Tuesday that I dumped in a catch all jar I don't think it has enough pods though. Hard to see in.
I got more eggs this evening so I'll have to see what I can do with them tomorrow.
IF they make it a week then I think I can put in some tisbe pods. My current population of those is rising. If they don't go to larvae they'll go in the tank.
Great thread , sounds like a lot of hard work. Your write up about keeping dragonets was great information .
I practice alot of the same methods described on page 5 for keeping my rrd and p.mandarin and have made great use of a home made feeder based on the referenced threads on reef central.
I am not surprised to see the evidence that a rrd has a shorter starvation time than a mandarin. My ruby red will inhale fresh hatched bbs from his feeder while the mandarin is slow and methodical. Indicating to me the rrd may burn more energy running around when compared to a mandarin .
My mandarin will eat and actively hunt frozen mysis, while the ruby red will spit aside frozen mysis.
I will be checking back to hear the results of the pod cultures.
I practice alot of the same methods described on page 5 for keeping my rrd and p.mandarin and have made great use of a home made feeder based on the referenced threads on reef central.
I am not surprised to see the evidence that a rrd has a shorter starvation time than a mandarin. My ruby red will inhale fresh hatched bbs from his feeder while the mandarin is slow and methodical. Indicating to me the rrd may burn more energy running around when compared to a mandarin .
My mandarin will eat and actively hunt frozen mysis, while the ruby red will spit aside frozen mysis.
I will be checking back to hear the results of the pod cultures.
kizanne
Member
Yeah my RR tank has some pods in there but my RR boy will literally swim up to the top of the rock and wait for the brine. Then when it gets within about an inch or two he'll swim out to eat it. He doesn't show as much interest in mysid but I think of the brine as just a top off. He's grown so much since I first got him in April. The girls wait for the brine to fall to the floor for the most part.
kizanne
Member
Ok so I have a batch at 4.5 days post hatch so past stavation time I have another batch that I'm testing starvation time on to try to confirm the time.
I only have about 5 larva so not a lot but that's a good thing because they eat so many copepods. They are currently in a 32 oz glass jar and I'm changing out 3/4 cup of water with new copepod water each day. This week end I'm going to try changing some out for new water and try to do an ammonia test.
I only have about 5 larva so not a lot but that's a good thing because they eat so many copepods. They are currently in a 32 oz glass jar and I'm changing out 3/4 cup of water with new copepod water each day. This week end I'm going to try changing some out for new water and try to do an ammonia test.
