Running ULNS with no fish

ChrisKirkland

Reef and Coral Fanatic
So I am running a ULNS system and also have no fish in there (due to ich out break. Fallow period) it will have no fish for about 10 more weeks. My question is what do you guys prefer to target feed corals. I have heard of coral frenzy, reef chili, etc. I am dosing acropower to try and keep amino acids in there.
 
I did this for the same reason and almost lost all my corks. The got soooooooo pale it was unreall. I had to stop doing w.c and removed all gac and gfo anf they improved right away. Just feed those bad boys good and maybe you willl have better luck
 
Out of all the foods I have tried the pappone food is the best. It will cost you $20 bucks to make 800mls and should last months.
Below are the instructions on how to make it and please don't add or take away from it.

Pappone Recipe Italian Coral Food (Updated 1/14/2007)

Materials:
5 Oysters
5 Mussels
5 Clams
5 Shrimp (NOT cocktail shrimp, the big scampi type w/o the head and the shell)
1 Tablespoon of Sugar (not corn syrup, etc.)
200 mL of RO/DI water
10 g of Red Algae (Palmaria palmata; Bisck uses Julian Sprung's brand)
and/or 10 g of Spirulina, 10 g of Nori (spirulina is what Bisck prefers)

Methods: Make SURE that all ingredients are the freshest possible and DO NOT use frozen foods (unless it is impossible for you). Make sure everything "live" is rinsed and cleaned before putting it into the blender. Put all the ingredients into the blender and blend for 5 min, wait 2 min for it to cool, 5 more min blending, 2 min of waiting again, then finally another 5 min of blending (the pausing is so that the solution doesn't get too hot and "cook" from the heat of the blender/blades). Pour into cube forms (approx 10 mL each). Then freeze it all—you want to minimize how long everything is at room temperature.

Procedure: One hour prior to turning off your lights, you have the option of adding Amino acids to the tank*. (For example, 11pm Halides off, add AA’s, 12am, actinics off, then add pappone). Take off the cup of your skimmer, but leave the skimmer running (so you don’t have a massive drop in O2 levels overnight). After the lights are off, start with only a ¼ of a cube per WEEK for every 400 L of tank water (approx 100 gallons). Be sure to measure NO3 and PO4 the next morning so that these parameters don't spike after feeding. You can reduce the amount fed if you are having nutrient problems. Also don’t forget to put the skimmer cup back on the next morning before the lights go back on.

*If everything is going well. It is good to wait and see how the tank is doing for awhile before trying this. The whole point here is that you don't want to change anything too fast, because nothing good happens quickly in this hobby. (Another method to grind up amino acid pills in the next batch of food; however Bisck found that it sometimes causes diatom outbreaks in his tank
 
Why not just suspend carbon dosing? That is assuming you are... If you're not, I've had success with doing nitrates in some got when corals were staring to get pale.
 
Why not just suspend carbon dosing? That is assuming you are... If you're not, I've had success with doing nitrates in some got when corals were staring to get pale.

I am not carbon dosing actually. I didn't have a lot of fish in there when the ich out break happened so there wasn't a lot of waste. Obviously enough that my corals were happy.
 
I just picked up Reef chili today and just fed it and had some great polyp extension due to feeding.
 
There's no question in my mind that pappone is the best way to go.. And truebalack, you are the pappone champion!!
I think that many people, myself included find that there are many hurdles to making it for themselves... Time and effort aside (everybody has their own constraints..) I know that my wife would quite literally divorce me on the spot and toss my 200 g tank out the window with her bare hands (full!!) if she came home to me blending all that fresh stinky seafood with her blender..
And then there's the storage issues as well.. Even frozen, there will be some smell, I assume.. Maybe not much, but some..
Trueblack, do you use blister pack? Is so, where do you get them?
 
same situation here fish less now for 7-8 weeks], and I dose carbon ...

I feed KZ Xtra and coral vitalizer.

Reef roid soaked in Reef Fuel [seachem, AAs] at nights.

and I picked up some sun corals at the beginning and feed them ALOT ... they are loving it and in a way I didnt stop feeding the "fish"
 
Out of all the foods I have tried the pappone food is the best. It will cost you $20 bucks to make 800mls and should last months.
Below are the instructions on how to make it and please don't add or take away from it.

Pappone Recipe Italian Coral Food (Updated 1/14/2007)

Materials:
5 Oysters
5 Mussels
5 Clams
5 Shrimp (NOT cocktail shrimp, the big scampi type w/o the head and the shell)
1 Tablespoon of Sugar (not corn syrup, etc.)
200 mL of RO/DI water
10 g of Red Algae (Palmaria palmata; Bisck uses Julian Sprung's brand)
and/or 10 g of Spirulina, 10 g of Nori (spirulina is what Bisck prefers)

Methods: Make SURE that all ingredients are the freshest possible and DO NOT use frozen foods (unless it is impossible for you). Make sure everything "live" is rinsed and cleaned before putting it into the blender. Put all the ingredients into the blender and blend for 5 min, wait 2 min for it to cool, 5 more min blending, 2 min of waiting again, then finally another 5 min of blending (the pausing is so that the solution doesn't get too hot and "cook" from the heat of the blender/blades). Pour into cube forms (approx 10 mL each). Then freeze it allâ€"you want to minimize how long everything is at room temperature.

Procedure: One hour prior to turning off your lights, you have the option of adding Amino acids to the tank*. (For example, 11pm Halides off, add AA’s, 12am, actinics off, then add pappone). Take off the cup of your skimmer, but leave the skimmer running (so you don’t have a massive drop in O2 levels overnight). After the lights are off, start with only a ¼ of a cube per WEEK for every 400 L of tank water (approx 100 gallons). Be sure to measure NO3 and PO4 the next morning so that these parameters don't spike after feeding. You can reduce the amount fed if you are having nutrient problems. Also don’t forget to put the skimmer cup back on the next morning before the lights go back on.

*If everything is going well. It is good to wait and see how the tank is doing for awhile before trying this. The whole point here is that you don't want to change anything too fast, because nothing good happens quickly in this hobby. (Another method to grind up amino acid pills in the next batch of food; however Bisck found that it sometimes causes diatom outbreaks in his tank

Do you feed this at night because thats when everyone has their polyps out? I was thinking along this line with all of my coral related feeding, but I'm not sure thats the right route to go?
 
Yes, when the polyps are out, the corals will take in the most, but I think that this mix will induce pretty serious polyp extension, even during the day..
 
Generally pe is better at night, so one could assume that the potential for feeding is better at night...
I believe this to be the case..
 
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