Saltwater cycle possible stuck

if anyone wanna use anything for instant cycle, I would only recommend Fritz Turbostart 900. We have tested it over and over again on almost daily basis on our commercial setups. We bleach systems and dry them next day add water and dose Fritz and add fish rightaway. Dose Fritz 2nd day and then after a week and thats it. Ours is commercial setup, at home you can likely get away with 1 initial dose and 1 a couple of days later.
 
if anyone wanna use anything for instant cycle, I would only recommend Fritz Turbostart 900. We have tested it over and over again on almost daily basis on our commercial setups. We bleach systems and dry them next day add water and dose Fritz and add fish rightaway. Dose Fritz 2nd day and then after a week and thats it. Ours is commercial setup, at home you can likely get away with 1 initial dose and 1 a couple of days later.
Where do you get it? I purchased some from a LFS when I started my 240 and it did nothing. I have always assumed it was due to improper handling. I think people fail to understand it is a live product.
I have used 3 or 4 different products from different places when I need to get things going instead of waiting to see if one is going to do it.
 
By: it did nothing


You mean fish died

Or per non digital test kit it failed to control ammonia

Because if fish died, you'd meet the impossible challenge levied right off the bat. The thing I hadn't ever encountered
 
By: it did nothing


You mean fish died

Or per non digital test kit it failed to control ammonia

Because if fish died, you'd meet the impossible challenge levied right off the bat. The thing I hadn't ever encountered
I am sorry. I find you terminology impossible to follow. I took 150 pounds of rock from the airport to my tank and fought to get the animals that came in it to live.
I mostly succeeded. I had stuff here and ready.
The ammonia levels in the tank reacted the way expected except for with the Fritz Turbostart that showed no changes on any test. I finally assumed it was a dead bottle. I have gotten several dead bottles of bacteria of various brands. This wasn't my first.
I have confidence in my ability to use test kits. API or otherwise.
I have no way of knowing if the animals died were from the tank or the shipping. Many were dead in the boxes when we opened them.
Many lived a long life like the stone crabs that got bigger than my hand.
 
answer inferred from above: yes non digital test kit nothing died.

The factors that make up all stuck cycle reports are predictable and the test kit types that do not show delays past ten days are known, and are never part of stuck or delayed cycle reports. In any stalled cycle post I try to see if the expected elements are in place.

For sure many are good with api I know many can use it well, Dr Reefs entire first study on bottle bac used api very convincingly.



Considering the number of fully running reefs stating ammonia problems with non digital kits shown on pior page you can understand the ensuring skepticism on stalling

The whole point is not to spend endless hours debating test kit readings, it's to shift concerns onto disease control and away from open- ended wait cycling.

The whole point is to shift reefing into disease preps, since cycling is so easy we can either skip it like Dr. Reef does or we can time it out ten days for the less simple approaches.

What matters is how we apply disease prevention protocols. that's what we should be discussing in cycle threads


Waiting 3x longer to gain a zero on api is OK as long as planned disease controls, stocking order + vector controls, were in place when the stocking began. If they weren't in place, waiting past day ten provided no increase in safety for the fish added. <-- most important tenet from new cycling science in my opinion
 
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Ya, I don't do any of that stuff either. I have never needed to. I have been assured that someday I will get what is coming to me. I have been wished doom by some of the big names too. Maybe next week when I have some animals that are coming.
By this time I have saved so much time, energy and money not worrying about diseases that I would sterilize everything and start over the same way I have always done things.

I stopped using API kits because I cant make drops reliably. No fine motor control many days.
Not because they don't work. I tried many times to explain how to use them but it never seemed to get through. You never need to know exactly what some value is in your tank. You need to know if you have too little, too much or an amount that is fine but is holding there or trending toward one of the 2 extremes. They can do that fine.
Just like a swing arm hydrometer. At least an old one like I have. It tells me my salinity is fine or needs fixed. I never need to know exactly what it is and really don't care.
Its husbandry, not science. Keeping fish should be relaxing, not stress inducing. It has always been that way for me. It's why I have wall to wall fish in the basement now. Saltwater and fresh. They are all beautiful. A 30 inch snowflake eel or a tiny neon tetra.

The one thing time teaches you is not to put that beautiful fish in the tank that will grow into a monster that eats all the others and lives the rest of its life in solitary confinement in a boring tank.

I want a bigger tank but that ship has sailed I think. I am barely keeping up now.
 
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